Lazy lines + alderney ring question

[Pete B]

Hello all,
Im familiar with the lazy line set-up but just wondered how it worked when in place with the alderney ring technique?

With the lazy line attached to the winching eye would there be to much pressure on it? or is this the way your all doing it?

Cheers in advance
Pete

[dave phillips]

hello pete

i use the alderney ring and bouy and that's it ,i never understood the point of a lazy line when using the alderney ring and bouy ,as far as i can work out once you have lifted the anchour and it is sitting in the ring ,

some times you can't reach the rope along side the boat but with the lazy line attach you just pull on the lazy line ,i think that is how it works

but i can't see the point of it when my anchour is sitting in the ring and i can't reach i just turn the boat till i can grab the rope ,i have no trouble without a lazyline and i am in a 31 footer

i have seen people use the lazy line when using a capstan ,once the rope is up to the mark on the boat they pull the lazy line and the anchour and chain come in over the gunnal and being draged along the deck

[solehunter]

I know the way squidhead does it is good without lazy line. Just make sure the anchor chain is heavier than the anchor, so once the anchor is lifted, the chain holds the anchor in the ring so you can drop throttle and pull in the rope in your own time without worry of the rope being slack or falling back to the seabed.

[Pete B]

Cheers gents, I take it you both walk round the cabin to the fore-deck? tie off on the front cleat to motor the anchor up with the Alderney ring?
The lazy line saves the walk round & I know that its used with the alderney ring but I would have thought the line kept the warp close to the boat when motoring up?
I like the idea of the lazy line on the smaller cabin boats as a man on the fore-deck or through a hatch in a big swell is asking for a wave over the bow especially if he's actually raising the anchor from there.
Any thoughts?

[dave phillips]

hello pete

no i don't go up on the fore deck ,i do all my anchouring from the Cockpit

my anchour goes over the side and comes back in the same way

from the anchour bin the rope goes a round to the front roller then a round the side back in to the boat i tie off and adjust the rope from the Cockpit using a side mounted bollard

[Pete B]

davephillips said:

hello pete

no i don't go up on the fore deck ,i do all my anchouring from the Cockpit

my anchour goes over the side and comes back in the same way

from the anchour bin the rope goes a round to the front roller then a round the side back in to the boat i tie off and adjust the rope from the Cockpit using a side mounted bollard

Aah I see Dave! is the warp ran round the cabin in eyelets or anything? is the bollard mounted on the inside of the gunnel (side), do you think a cleat would serve the same purpose ok?

[dave phillips]

yes mate i run the rope in a couple of stainless steel rope roller's ,the bollard is on the side (on top of the deck ) what bollard or cleat you use it must be strong enougth or the way it is bolted down ,it has to cope with the weight of the boat pulling the the anchour out

[squideyebarnes]

Same as me dont go on front at all But like dave said once towed out the chain is heavier than the Ancour and just floats easy to pull in without the danger of the bouy slipping back down the rope that could be very dangerous

[Pete B]

Cheers Dave.
Your way sounds alot better than the lazy line & I cant see why it wouldnt work as well in a smaller cabined boat?, it dont involve tying knots in ya warp for a start! I just wouldnt want to motor out an anchor tied via a lazy line clipped to knot in the warp & attched to the winch eye at the other end, especially if you find out she's dug in at 8 knots......scary.

[squideyebarnes]

had that the other day as fun I just spun round in a big circle till she poped out.

[squideyebarnes]

any boat size does not matter

[squidlips]

admin said:

Cheers Dave.
Your way sounds alot better than the lazy line & I cant see why it wouldnt work as well in a smaller cabined boat?, it dont involve tying knots in ya warp for a start! I just wouldnt want to motor out an anchor tied via a lazy line clipped to knot in the warp & attched to the winch eye at the other end, especially if you find out she's dug in at 8 knots......scary.

pete, i use the same set up as dave but with a smaller boat,

i also have a stainless triangle that i fit to keep the buoy away from the front of my boat as i cannot see the buoy from my cabin when i charge the anchor.
stainless steve sells them for about £9.its too difficult to describe bu they work a treat

[dave phillips]

hello pete

here's a picture of how it is set up fom the cockpit up to the bow roller ,then back to the cockpit ,sorry about the picture a could not get it any bigger


www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F136791/

[Pete B]

Cheers Andy, Karl & Dave,

squideyebarnes said:

had that the other day as fun I just spun round in a big circle till she poped out.

Good job the warp was ran through the bow roller, I've quite often seen anchors steamed out tied off the stern cleat!!!

[dave phillips]

you should never tie off on the stern cleat if anything happens you might not be able to get it off fast enough ,when it runs out of the bow roller and the anchour will not come out all that will happen is the boat will spin back a round