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Post by willow on Jan 27, 2007 20:14:29 GMT
What more do you get for your money? maybe a few more ball bearings but generally theres no great difference from a £40-00 to a £200 Shimanos specification
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Post by reelbargains on Jan 28, 2007 12:10:58 GMT
Out the box, yeah I agree - either will be perfectly good to fish with. However as the reel gets older the cheaper model will take a downturn in performance as parts get damaged, worn out or corrode. 'Most' of the high end models should stay at the high end of performance for much longer or indeed for their whole life (and yours!) if you give them a little TLC.
For me I'd go with the top end stuff as and when I can afford it but thats because I've learnt the hard way and wasted a lot of money in the past with crap kit - I've got a box under the stairs thats like a tackle graveyard! Add to that, that I've had at least one piece of cheap kit fail when I've been playing a really good fish (and lost it) and going quality makes sense to me.
But, if you can't afford it, the cheaper stuff is perfectly good to go fishing with - don't let it stop you go fishing - thats the key point!
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Post by Pete B on Jan 28, 2007 14:34:23 GMT
As 'reelbargains' said build quality is the difference. Like 'reelbargains' I opt for the better gear but cant justify the prices of the real top end stuff. I spend my money on the stuff somewhere in between at the level that should give me top end materials, components & build quality without paying the 'prestige charge' that comes with the manufacturers flagship model. A mate of mine treated himself to the Shimano Stella fixed spool & it really is a perfect bit of kit that I doubt any of us here could find fault with. He opted for a 4 or 5000 size model which is ideal for alot of uses, he really gets the most out of it. He was brave enough to take a risk on importing a nearly new one from the U.S which arrived safely & turned out to be perfect but look at the price of a new one - www.sportfish.co.uk/product/35036/Shimano_Stella_FA_Spinning_Reel.htmlI couldnt part with that kind of money myself but this reel will last a lifetime without doubt & if ever sold will fetch a good bit of its initial cost back, any top spec bit of kit does. Look at Zziplex, Conoflex, Century & top end Daiwa rods, they sell for a little under their original price tag on ebay years later. One thing for sure its not worth going for the cheap stuff, I managed to kill two cheapies last summer alone, theyre ok at first but long term are a false economy. Buying the best I can afford is my theory. |
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Post by Pete B on Jan 28, 2007 14:52:19 GMT
This was my choice of compromise. Like the Advert says Daiwas Flagship fixed spool is the 'Certate'. www.japantackle.com/Daiwa_reels/Daiwa_Caldia_Kix.htmThis reel the 'Caldia kix' is the next down but has an impressive spec all the same. Like it says its not a waterdowned Certate. I went for the 3000 size which costs around $200. I imported & it set me back around £70-£80 a year ago which I didnt consider to bad especially as I had killed two £30-£40 reels prior. Hopefully this one will last me longer! |
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Post by reelbargains on Jan 28, 2007 16:52:43 GMT
I'd like to add that both Pete and myself like ultra light fishing too. If you're using thin/light line, the supreme drag required to give you the best chance of landing decent fish on light line generally only come with decent reels.
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Post by dean macey on Jan 28, 2007 17:28:31 GMT
fished for years trying cheaper reels and they all end up with problems.shimanos are aboat 80 to 90 for a sea reel and last for years,cant be beat.
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Post by Pete B on Jan 28, 2007 17:36:46 GMT
I agree Dean, Some yrs ago I had such a bad run of problems with my gear that one day I layed it all out on the lounge floor, chucked some of it away, ebayed most of it & only kept what I was really happy with. With the profits from what I ebayed I invested in two century beach rods & from then on have waited until I can afford quality kit.
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Post by dean macey on Jan 28, 2007 17:48:37 GMT
i agree i think cheap gear is a put of for many new anglers.
look at other sports you do not encourage them to use crap do you.what is the point of spending 30pounds on petrol,bait,fishing tickets,etc,etc, then get on the beach with a reel that will not cast,rod that is to stiff,waste of time and money.
we seem to accept rubbish gear in our sport i cannot understand it.it never lasts and is just frustrating,
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Post by Pete B on Jan 28, 2007 19:08:10 GMT
Its amazing the difference it makes to your fishing, its all about enjoying it & when everythings working as it should & you have 100% confidence in your gear you can really sit back & enjoy the day
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Post by Steve (Original Leadchukka) on Jan 29, 2007 23:15:45 GMT
I recently bought a Shimano 6000RE Special Edition for £50 from my local tackle shop. It is a lovely piece of engineering. I am normally a multiplier man, but decided to get a 'baitrunner' style fixed spool for a change to challenge the bass later in the year. I was assured it can handle anything the local beaches can throw at it - not sure about a big smoothound (if I ever get that lucky) but I am sure it will give it a good shot.
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Post by reelbargains on Jan 29, 2007 23:18:43 GMT
Its amazing the difference it makes to your fishing, its all about enjoying it & when everythings working as it should & you have 100% confidence in your gear you can really sit back & enjoy the day We've talked about this before Pete I know... Confidence can make a massive difference to the success of your fishing. |
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Post by darenw on Jan 30, 2007 17:45:20 GMT
I've been talking to an ex charter skipper at work this week and he says that a lot of cod fishermen in norway prefer a quality fixed spool over a good multiplier because of the fast retrieve!!!
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Post by Pete B on Jan 30, 2007 22:48:26 GMT
Stevebbh, I got a 6000 shimano fixed spool (GTE...I think?) brilliant bit of kit, that sounds a good price, really fairly priced reel I'd say.
Darren, its amazing how the fixed spool has come back in favour in the last few yrs, Im going to have ago uptiding with one this year.
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Post by squideyebarnes on Jan 30, 2007 22:57:36 GMT
Stevebbh, I got a 6000 shimano fixed spool (GTE...I think?) brilliant bit of kit, that sounds a good price, really fairly priced reel I'd say. Darren, its amazing how the fixed spool has come back in favour in the last few yrs, Im going to have ago uptiding with one this year. yep same here looking at the big siver penn fixed spool surfcast or something |
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Post by Pete B on Jan 30, 2007 23:02:39 GMT
yeh, what size you thinking of going for Andy?
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