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Post by MiloB on Aug 2, 2009 20:03:27 GMT
today i got some new line 25lb bs and put it on my multiplier, and when i cast it just went into a birds nest everytime and i tried doing lots of things and it was the same everytime, and before you say it wasnt my casting ive never had a problem before, i was just thinking do you think it could be the new line is it to thick or something?
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Post by cuckoo on Aug 2, 2009 20:07:42 GMT
What line is it milob ??
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Post by davey on Aug 2, 2009 20:16:32 GMT
I'm no expert Milob. but it could be the thickness, I normally use 18lb line and have no trouble but when I'm conger fishing I use 35lb and its a bugger to cast with.
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Post by solehunter on Aug 2, 2009 20:23:06 GMT
I use 25lb with not many problems, though after just one birdie, the line will never lay on your spool correctly again. Maybe you had an unlucky first cast with it and now its ruined it. I know its costly but load your spool again and tighted your brakes a bit before casting. If it blows up again on first cast, get someone to look at it  |
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Post by MiloB on Aug 2, 2009 20:28:09 GMT
the libne is ultima seastrike. i would use lighter line but i snap cast and i cant use shockleader because it doesnt go through the level wind i want to take the level wind of but last time i tried to do that the reel fell into pieces and i had to take it to bk 16   |
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Post by eddiec on Aug 2, 2009 20:33:32 GMT
Thats not the best line to be using to be trueful, try a good quality line 15-18lb and if your concerned about shock leader knot then try tapered shock leader |
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Post by spud on Aug 2, 2009 21:02:53 GMT
my bro uses 25 lb f1 with no shockleader i know it is a bit expensive but he has an abu with level wind and cant get on with leader knots he as never had it crack off i had some sea strike once never again |
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Post by MiloB on Aug 2, 2009 21:10:33 GMT
hmm i think its the rubbish line reaaly, it was quite cheap |
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Post by spud on Aug 2, 2009 21:14:32 GMT
hmm i think its the rubbish line reaaly, it was quite cheap mine just snapped for the fun of it in your hands :thumb: |
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Post by Coddo on Aug 2, 2009 21:17:27 GMT
defo go with eddie's advice. 15lb main line and a good tapered leader. i use the bullet leaders and they are brilliant!
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Post by basskingfifteen on Aug 3, 2009 3:42:15 GMT
milo b ........have you been fiddling again bring it down and let me have a look......ive got some line and will set you up ;D your casting was fine when i saw you  |
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Post by MiloB on Aug 3, 2009 8:34:44 GMT
haha no i honestly havent touched it i would after last time okay i will cheers |
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Post by greysfanboy on Aug 3, 2009 8:54:17 GMT
That line is crap mate, but that might not be the cause of your problems. What reel is it?
The thing about thicker line is that because it is thicker, the spool diameter decreases faster as you cast. If you think about it - the spool therefore needs to spin more rpm to let the same amount of line out as with using thinner line. Higher rpm = higher angular momentum, higher spool acceleration = more difficult to control. There are many more factors that come in to it which can have positive and negative effects on casting so it's not black and white. The key to solving it is firstly using the right reel for the line diameter (and breaking strain, to a degree) then tuning the reel up properly.
For example, an Abu 6500 mag tuned up nicely for fishing casting 0.35mm line (in my case, 1 brake block, yellow fuel and mags adjusted anywhere between 3 and 6) will run like a bag of shite if you stripped it and filled up with some 0.45mm line.
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Post by eccles on Aug 3, 2009 8:56:49 GMT
When I buy new line these days I always check the thickness. They do vary quite a lot and I think that can make a difference. For example I am currently using Okuma ultramax 20 lb and have done for a while as it is not expensive but have found it to be very reliable and only 0.40 mm thick whereas some 20lb line is much thicker than that.
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Post by greysfanboy on Aug 3, 2009 9:04:14 GMT
When I buy new line these days I always check the thickness. They do vary quite a lot and I think that can make a difference. For example I am currently using Okuma ultramax 20 lb and have done for a while as it is not expensive but have found it to be very reliable and only 0.40 mm thick whereas some 20lb line is much thicker than that. I judge any mono line on this basis (most important first) Abrasion resistance > diameter > cost (  ) > breaking strain The majority of marks I fish the ground is rough, so abrasion resistance is my number one concern. It doesn't matter how high the rated breaking strain is, even if it's 150lb it matters little if it puckers up when rubbing against shingle, rocks, debris etc. Diameter is a double edged sword. Thinner lines are easier to cast distance with, but many of them these days are just normal line which is pre-stretched. This stuff is SHITE. It usually breaks like cotton and it's abrasion resistance is minimal. Cost - I don't like paying out loads of £££ for line, but in my experience anyway the best lines are those that are mid-priced. I have found the most expensive and the cheapest are usually the poorest quality. Breaking strain - Of course I need it to take the weight, but I have found that if it is of a reasonable diameter and has high abrasion resistance then a good knot strength is just part and -parcel. |
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