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Post by pjl83 on Sept 8, 2009 18:53:14 GMT
Which line do you use for building your rigs?
I use 25lb and 50lb cheap crap that I got when I first started making my own. It kinks easily and doesn't straighten out very well around the knots.
What do you guys use? Any reccomendations?
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Post by martyng on Sept 8, 2009 19:24:55 GMT
I build all my rigs using 80lb Sakuma Rig Body. Its soft, supple, resistant to abrasion and kinks don't happen if you pre-stretch the rig...
If you shop around you should find it for around £6.50 to £7.00 for a 100 metre reel.
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Post by maxwell on Sept 8, 2009 19:25:05 GMT
I use 60lb main body and 30lb Amnesia for the snoods Pj.
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Post by solehunter on Sept 8, 2009 21:10:53 GMT
I use 60lb main body and 30lb Amnesia for the snoods Pj. Pretty much the same here. 60lb shock leader and 20 or 30 lb ?amnesia? for snoods. Amnesia will kink but just pull it tight or run your fingers anong it tightly and the kinks fall out. |
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Post by hobnob on Sept 8, 2009 21:23:45 GMT
50-60lb grease weasel for rig body amnesia 20-30lb for hook snoods. i thought i was the only one who used grease weasel for rig body untill i bought fox shore angling book and seems all the top boys use it aswell
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Post by basskingfifteen on Sept 8, 2009 22:07:29 GMT
berkley triline big game in clear or green in 50 to 70 for rig bodies and usually the same for snoods ;D but may drop to 30lb snoods very occasionally  used to love gantel but cant get it anymore :bash: |
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Post by lighty on Sept 8, 2009 22:29:22 GMT
I use 40lb ultima clear for snoods and 50/60lb orange greased weasel for rigs and leaders and snoods sometimes as well, though sometimes I do use the Grey greased weasel for the above.
But either way its my main stuff (greased weasel) that is.
What am I talking about, I don't use rigs!, I just use G/R for my end stuff
lighty
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Post by solehunter on Sept 8, 2009 22:50:13 GMT
I use 40lb ultima clear for snoods and 50/60lb orange greased weasel for rigs and leaders and snoods sometimes as well, though sometimes I do use the Grey greased weasel for the above. But either way its my main stuff (greased weasel) that is. What am I talking about, I don't use rigs!, I just use G/R for my end stuff lighty Is that the `guns and roses` rigs John? lol I like the fact that many good fishermen acknowledge that light snoods are not a must. I can see it in mullet fishing but not much else. Fish dont look at a bait to see if there is a line running off of it. Thicker snoods = less tangles in my eyes and no disadvantages.  |
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Post by sailorboyrob on Sept 9, 2009 5:39:38 GMT
I like the fact that many good fishermen acknowledge that light snoods are not a must. I can see it in mullet fishing but not much else. Fish dont look at a bait to see if there is a line running off of it. Thicker snoods = less tangles in my eyes and no disadvantages. Gotta aggree with you on that one. Fish are eating machines and arent scared of hooks or line. It goes to show that over the last couple of weeks 2 of you have reported catching the same fish twice! They feed entirely by instict, after all how often do they naturally find a nicely peeled crab with the legs missing wrapped up into a sausage shape or half a dozen lugworms climbing up each others arses whilst one of them is eating a strip if pacific caught squid??? Its just a case of eat or be eaten! I use 80lb varivas rig body and 40lb amnesia or 60lb varivas for the snoods. 3/0 hooks are a minimum for normal fishing and as you know there arent many fish that cant get a 3/0 down them if they have enogh time to chew on the bait. The only time I go lower is if im scratching (which is rare, as I would rather blank than resign myself to catching mini species!)and cant get the 40lb through the eye of the hook. |
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Post by eccles on Sept 9, 2009 6:49:01 GMT
Same as other guys - Greased Weasel for main body and 20 lb Amnesia for snoods. I have used Berkley Vanish once or twice for snoods because some guy was going on about fish seeing the line. Why I took any notice at the time I really don't know because fish just ain't that smart and Vanish doesn't knot as well as Amnesia - anyone want a cheap reel of Vanish 14lb 200+yds?
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Post by olsmelly on Sept 9, 2009 15:41:22 GMT
I prefer co-polymer for snoods. It doesn't tangle so much.
As for BS, I use a fairly complex formula. Knowing the heaviest fish, likely to be caught, I think in terms of their pulling ability.
Abu did some research on this way back in the early 70's and came up with a ball-park figure of 1/3 the fish weight.
Another piece of serious 70's research was into the %age BS of knots. Contrary to myth, the strongest knot is the half-blood knot, at 97% of the line BS.
Therefore I could get away with 8lb line around here (in my younger day, I'd fish 4lb with a short 30lb dropper, to avoid erosion by the fish)
However, I cheat and use 15lb snood. That is good for a 43.65lb fish!
(Actually I lifted a 65lb conger on that from 90ft, a couple of years ago!..... using a 200lb dropper)
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Post by The Codfather of Sole on Sept 9, 2009 18:02:06 GMT
Uk Hooks own line in 80lb BS  Knots nicely wihout pigtails |
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Post by pjl83 on Sept 9, 2009 18:46:43 GMT
thanks guys. a few names for me to look for now in the tackle shop |
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Post by martyng on Sept 9, 2009 19:40:01 GMT
Another piece of serious 70's research was into the %age BS of knots. Contrary to myth, the strongest knot is the half-blood knot, at 97% of the line BS. Very out-of-date info now in the 21st century  The only knots that can be claimed as being the strongest when tied in mono and fluoro are the "World's Fair Knot" and the "Bimini Knot" both of which are rated at virtually 100% of line strength. The other thing to bear in mind is that the Half-Blood Knot is amazingly easy to tie badly. If it isn't 'clinched home' really tightly it will slide loose. |
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Post by lighty on Sept 9, 2009 21:48:32 GMT
"I like the fact that many good fishermen acknowledge that light snoods are not a must." So true Dave! Very out-of-date info now in the 21st century The only knots that can be claimed as being the strongest when tied in mono and fluoro are the "World's Fair Knot" and the "Bimini Knot" both of which are rated at virtually 100% of line strength. The other thing to bear in mind is that the Half-Blood Knot is amazingly easy to tie badly. If it isn't 'clinched home' really tightly it will slide loose. Very true mate! lighty |
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The only knots that can be claimed as being the strongest when tied in mono and fluoro are the "World's Fair Knot" and the "Bimini Knot" both of which are rated at virtually 100% of line strength. The other thing to bear in mind is that the Half-Blood Knot is amazingly easy to tie badly. If it isn't 'clinched home' really tightly it will slide loose.