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Post by sharkey+ jnr on Oct 7, 2009 19:48:02 GMT
Hi mate
I have a Shimano Biomaster 8000 use it on deep water wrecks and find it great for uptiding. :catch:
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Post by snowy on Oct 7, 2009 19:56:23 GMT
I looked at the Penn Spinfisher series and immediately recognised them as I have a couple of the smaller models. It is only my opinion but whilst they are very capable reels I find them ugly, ungainly,heavy and agricultural. They are competent but dated although can be picked up quite cheaply.
I did not know Accurate did fixed spools and will have a look at them.
I am very interested in the Shimano Navi and Biomaster. The reason for the post was to identify those models that were suitable for heavy salt water use, thanks fellas for doing that for me.
My interest has stemmed from fishing Florida where fixed spools are the norm. However I would still maintain that good quality multipliers are a better bet for long drawn out fights.
However without wishing to disrespect our fish a fight rarely lasts more than ten minutes and a fixed spool should be up to the job.
It was really something suitable to experiment with. Grauvell have introduced a boat fixed spool which is quite expensive. I have been trying to 'blag' a couple from Grauvell for 'research' but have not suceeded YET!!
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Post by snowy on Oct 7, 2009 20:04:30 GMT
On that auction site are Shimano Navi and Biomaster 8000s in XTA and XSA models. The secondhand prices look ok but what is the difference?
Both models use the same spool.
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Post by basskingfifteen on Oct 7, 2009 20:15:48 GMT
£4-5-600... quite expensive. Strange how the fixed spool is under-rated in this Country or it seems to me it is. lighty christ  now that is pricey |
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Post by lighty on Oct 7, 2009 20:16:16 GMT
Just had a quick look about and the most obvious reel for what you would use it for is the Daiwa Dogfight (what a reel it looks, I want one.. dreams?) very priccy,
The one I knew about but have'nt used is the Daiwa OPUS or the Daiwa BLACK GOLD both look suitable and much cheaper.
lighty
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Post by sharkey+ jnr on Oct 7, 2009 20:18:56 GMT
Do find it harder trying to keep the bottom when 'hopping jigging' with a f/s, but can get it up 200ft very quick................
do use the bait runners for bassing 100ft + excellent
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Post by snowy on Oct 7, 2009 20:27:59 GMT
That Dogfight looks the business, Daiwas competition for the Stella unless it is the other way round.
The Black Gold looks like their version of Penns Spinfisher.
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Post by Pete B on Oct 7, 2009 20:40:48 GMT
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Post by Pete B on Oct 7, 2009 20:48:50 GMT
On that auction site are Shimano Navi and Biomaster 8000s in XTA and XSA models. The secondhand prices look ok but what is the difference? Both models use the same spool. Its the gearing i think, the 'pg' model is the purpose built jigging reel. |
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Post by bassmanrob on Oct 7, 2009 21:10:50 GMT
On that auction site are Shimano Navi and Biomaster 8000s in XTA and XSA models. The secondhand prices look ok but what is the difference? Both models use the same spool. I have a shimano biomaster (8000 XSA) which I use off the beach when I use a F/S set up. I like them for bassing at close range as the drag is very good and easily adjustable. Very nice, well made smooth reels which can take a lot of abuse. I've never used one off a boat but they handle smutts easily off the beach and also 40lb clumps of weed! I think the difference between the XTA and the XSA is the former has a baitrunner function. |
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Post by monkeynuts on Oct 7, 2009 21:43:38 GMT
i use a small beach sized reels like the ryobi 7000 i have loaded with 30lb braid on my spinning gear out on deep water reefs in cornwall(200'+) and around the back of the island(only over slack water round island) and iv had cod to 18 lb, pollock to over 15lb and conger to over 40lb on this reel on a 3-4oz spinning rod. i dont know why people think using them is mad as if conditions let you it can make a normal day very good fun.
i have used smaller reel but thay only seem to last 1 season at a time then are fooked. so id go for a thougher beach reel.
im thinking of 1 a shimano 8000xsa next as thay seem a good price and good quality for the abuse im going to chuck at it.plus my ryobi is about 10 years old now.
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Post by martyng on Oct 8, 2009 8:44:38 GMT
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Post by snowy on Oct 8, 2009 15:15:34 GMT
The 760 Slammer looks like a new model if you believe the American hype. Perhaps they have reworked the old model as it still looks a little dated.
The Shimano Navi 8000pg looks the business again at more sensible money than the Stella. There is one on that auction site but the advert sayd it is a baitrunner reel. However there is no sign of that function on the reel in the picture.
I am bidding on a Navi 8000 at the moment and winning so we will see.
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Post by snowy on Oct 8, 2009 15:17:40 GMT
Actually that is a better picture of the Slammer on the Daiwa site. That looks the business as well and is much cheaper then the auction site one. If I lose the Navi I might just make the investment.
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Post by snowy on Oct 8, 2009 19:16:21 GMT
I gotm the Navi for £44 so I will post how it performs when I have given it a good go!
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