Keeping warn in your shelter.

[stevieboy]

Hi all,
I'm thinking of taking my nipper out and using my new beach buddy. Given the cold weather, what's the best way of keeping the shelter warm? Maybe some kind of heater that doubles as a brew making device? I've not got much of a clue of what I'm looking for here, preferably something I can lug down the cliffs at Chale.

Thanks,

Steve.

[basskingfifteen]

dont use a shelter myself steve.......so just my thoughts really

for the nipper, couple handwarmers in his pockets, decent proper clothing ,hat and pair of good warm boots will probably help more than a heater in the shelter, you know what its like when you get too warm....you just dont wanna move !! and get really cold really quickly when you venture out , those shelters are good at keeping the worst weather away , spud loves his and we used it at the sole comp, it kept us fishing till 3am when maybe we wouldnt have lasted :gay:

theres probably a small heater or even a lamp(coleman etc) placed in the shelter that could work..............but watch something getting too hot !!

good luck, brave lad going in this weather :win:

[maxwell]

Get down to Maplins Steve, got heated everything in there, gloves socks, waistcoats,

[eccles]

Very dodgy trying to warm up a shelter as my daughter once found out - knocked over the heater accidently and the whole thing went up like an inferno.

[eddy]

beware of any fume's given off as well :sick:

[lighty]

Steve,
The trouble with stoves is they need fuel, ok if it is just for brewing, then a small canister or the equivalent in petrol or meths will suffice, but for keeping warm then you'll need a lot of fuel for a sesh, an alternative is a Tilley lamp, great in a draft proof shelter but another weighty thing to carry down the back and as such not a great deal of heat.
The best alternative is to have a fire outside the shelter, so for me that means in cold weather I go to a beach that will be littered with burnables, that rules chale out m8 or if you must fish a clean beach like Chale then take with you something to burn, obviously you ain't going to take a truck load off logs with you, but Barbecue brickets are quite light to carry and inexpensive to buy
I think that you have mentioned before that you have never used a shelter, what you will find is the shelter will keep the wind factor down and will make a huge difference to your comfort on a bad night/day, especially if you have the appropriate clothes on.
You can just make a hole in the shingle for your fire (inside or outside the shelter) and the brickets will certainly keep your hands warm, or you could get a Kelly kettle to burn stuff in or make your own lightweight one.
Brickets work for me Steve, but then I will only go to a beach where I know I'll find stuff to burn in the winter, apart from where you can fish from the car that is.

lighty

[olsmelly]

The Maplin idea is a gudgun. However, heavy on batteries!

A few simple tips, taken from years' of experience on the Northern European Plains in temperatures down to -30C!

Multiple clothing layers on the torso. Wind proof top layer. A pair of Maw's nylon tights under long johns down below.

Half inch Maw's SNOOD (a kind of neck warmer) and Dad's balaclava. Wear a Thinsulate beanie on top of all that! This minimises heat loss through the head and will help keep hands and feet warm.

Then, of course, the thermal boots and gloves...............

[solehunter]

All well and good. A lot of the recommendations said here keep the edge off the chill but i have never wore anything that stops you from still feeling freezing on nights on the beach during the weather we have now. Other than standing by a beach fire, who can honestly say they have been comfortably warm in `winter wear` clothing in minus temps?

[lighty]

Dave, if you wear Builder's type clothing on the beach in bad weather (not saying you do mind!) then you ain't going to keep warm, but with proper technical clothing then you can (expensive though)
Obviously the younger you are the better, as your circulation is in good order (if you don't smoke that is) but the older you get the more heat retaining clothes you'll need and what I have found is that it is best to use a Base layer, the base layer wicks away sweat, followed by in my opinion the warmest layer which is Damart Double Force long john's and vest followed by waterproof's and windbreakers, only trouble is though you will actually steam walking to your
fishing spot...lol.
Steve; I forgot to mention that one way of having some heat in you bivvy is to use an army type Heximine burner, very cheap to buy, very light to carry and gives out a reasonable amount of heat, well enough to keep your hands warm, though in a semi closed bivvy it would warm up inside well. there something well handy! that I think they should be in every tackle box as a just in case?

lighty

[kelvinbarker]

hi chap when i ust to go carp fishing in the winter all i ust to use apart from good clothing i ust to put on my gas stove while making a coffie i found the heat off the gas stove and the steam from the kettle ust to keep me fairly warm chap hope this helps

[solehunter]

Dec 27, 2009 14:13:20 GMT lighty said:

Dave, if you wear Builder's type clothing on the beach in bad weather (not saying you do mind!) then you ain't going to keep warm, but with proper technical clothing then you can (expensive though)
Obviously the younger you are the better, as your circulation is in good order (if you don't smoke that is) but the older you get the more heat retaining clothes you'll need and what I have found is that it is best to use a Base layer, the base layer wicks away sweat, followed by in my opinion the warmest layer which is Damart Double Force long john's and vest followed by waterproof's and windbreakers, only trouble is though you will actually steam walking to your
fishing spot...lol.
Steve; I forgot to mention that one way of having some heat in you bivvy is to use an army type Heximine burner, very cheap to buy, very light to carry and gives out a reasonable amount of heat, well enough to keep your hands warm, though in a semi closed bivvy it would warm up inside well. there something well handy! that I think they should be in every tackle box as a just in case?

lighty

I got a 2 piece floaty john, i always wear a few layers underneath of any jacket a wear but i still freeze. Yeah i smoke but thats all gonna change in the new year i hope ;D
Ironically my old road ganger coat i had was the warmest i have ever had, now sadly lost to the skip but i was only cold in that in silly conditions. Now days i find it better to stay in.

[lighty]

" Now days i find it better to stay in."

Yes, so do I mate; funny you should say about your old ganger coat, years ago I was given an old but good condition ex SEB issue thick wool type Duffel coat, heavy but very warm, always wore it in the winter, it never wore out, think I just got fed up with it and binned it.

lighty

[solehunter]

Dec 30, 2009 0:36:40 GMT lighty said:

" Now days i find it better to stay in."

Yes, so do I mate; funny you should say about your old ganger coat, years ago I was given an old but good condition ex SEB issue thick wool type Duffel coat, heavy but very warm, always wore it in the winter, it never wore out, think I just got fed up with it and binned it.

lighty

I know them well mate! My dad was on the SEB for 40 years
Lord knows where it is now, might be in my mums garage. I still have an un used set of the green overalls with the orange SEB logo

[lighty]

Ebay..collectors items mate, yanks will pay a fortune for them..lol

lighty

[Cam]

mate got a pair of different type of handwarmers for xmas ...about £20 notes each mind but you fill them with lighter fluid and they burn for 24 hours .he light one up and i was well impressed ...apparently zippo do them although his are made by someone else