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Post by tippersiow on Jul 4, 2011 13:41:59 GMT
Hey everyone...
Me and the missus are looking to get a little spinning rod. Not targetting any serious day in day out fishing with it, just looking for a few mackies or gar off sandown etc... or keeping occupied on frustrating beach trips with no bites etc... Don't want to spend a fortune, but don't want a spindly little plastic thing.
Any advice you can give on the best rods/dexters etc... would be superb!
cheers!
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Post by stevieboy on Jul 4, 2011 13:52:10 GMT
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Post by tippersiow on Jul 4, 2011 15:48:44 GMT
Fantastic! I'll have a look into that!  |
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Post by Purple on Jul 4, 2011 17:12:40 GMT
the bushwackers are no toys - definately worth it if its in your price range
they do a few different weight/sizes/action, so look around
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Post by eccles on Jul 9, 2011 6:13:13 GMT
Seems a bit pricey to me, I have used an Abu uptider for several years now. Don't know what they cost now but mine was £30. At the time I wanted a rod with a bit of grunt as well as having the ability to keep casting lures without it being tiring. Thus it's great for casting a baited sinker out around 70 yds if I get fed up with spinning.
Just been having a look at the market and there seem to be a few around in the £30/50 bracket.
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Post by stevieboy on Jul 9, 2011 10:09:48 GMT
Sigh... I was waiting for the standard "you could use a carp rod" that normally comes as an answer to this kind of question, but you've trumped that. Use an uptider? Brilliant.
What's going to be best for spinning from the beach, a rod designed specifically for it, or one designed for lobbing a 5oz wired lead uptide from a boat? Why suggest rods you've no experience of for £30-£50 when an excellent, tried and tested rod had been suggested for a tenner more? Actually, I've an old pool cue I could lash some eyes on for a fiver...
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Post by drooper on Jul 9, 2011 18:00:54 GMT
got an old cricket bat mate, you can have it for free ;D no good for spinning but freeeeeee failing that got a few nice spinning rods for good prices  |
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Post by eccles on Jul 9, 2011 21:52:36 GMT
Problem with spinning rods is they are no good for anything else whereas an uptider is a dual purpose machine......
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Post by deckchair farmer on Jul 9, 2011 22:32:01 GMT
Problem with spinning rods is they are no good for anything else whereas an uptider is a dual purpose machine...... Ignore this advice! Why the hell would you want to use a uptider, unless your chucking about 8oz lures  Head banger!!! |
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Post by The Codfather of Sole on Jul 9, 2011 23:03:18 GMT
I always used to go for longish rods.. My favourite back in the uk is an Ed Schkliffe rockhopper at 11' but having used the 6-7' ones here (USA) I can honestly say that I can cast as far with these now. I use a Quantum GSX apex 6'6" with a Shimano 2500FD for crankbaits and can cast a 5/8oz around 50 yards on a calm day with 8lb fused ultima braid.... ...crankbaits, listen to me  I've gone native :hysterical: |
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Post by Purple on Jul 10, 2011 11:43:38 GMT
Back in the day (when some twonk on telly said all sea spinning rods should be 11ft) everybody believed him and that's what they went for. Yes, dear reader, Henry Gilby has got a lot to answer for.
Fortunately, some of us have been using spinning rods since we were knee high to a grasshopper, and know that somewhere around the 7ft mark works just as well, and is a lot easier to handle all day long.
Most peoples perception of the average sea lure involves either a one ounce fish shaped jobby, or a naggering great three or four ounce wobbly thing, and start using rods that will cast from one ounce to four ounces - Thus neatly excluding half the lures out there such as wormy type efforts and feather tipped types with blades (remember those ? ), cos then you're trying to cast half an ounce with a rod that simply can't do it (like up tiders).
In an ideal world, you want a 7 or 8 ft rod that will flick (not “hurl”) anything from half an ounce to an ounce and a half - and probably handle a little bit more than that if you decide to do a spot of float or light ledgering.
From memory, the Bushwacker range consists of three rod options – light – medium – and med/heavy. Either the medium for lighter work, or the med/heavy for sea applications are both excellent choices, and the reason they are around the £60 mark is cos of the action those rods have which everyone rates as “very nice indeed”. A very shiny second hand one recently sold on ebay for £35 plus postage, and for that price, you certainly couldn't do better.
Another interesting rod option for sea spinning are some of the very light boat rods – the 12lb ones – seven foot, with very whippy tips. These will sling an ounce a fair distance, but won't handle anything lighter than that - - and should take a two ounce ledger out, though not for any great distance without stressing the blank. The advantage is that there are hundreds to choose from, and most are cheap as chips – but for spinning their weight range is limited.
Uptiders ? - heavy casting range between just over two ounces to around 6 ounces – couldn't get a one ounce lure past the surf. They have been known to double up as beachcasters, if you get just the right one in just the right conditions ….... but with a butt section designed to take up to ten ounces, trying to spin with one is like driving a truck around town.
The med/heavy spinning rods are more of an all rounder than you'd think – with the added atraction of actually being designed to throw a distance accurately, and all day long.
Carp rods ? - yeah that old myth ….... depends how much you like your carp rod, cos the sea is just gonna laugh and chew it up for you.
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Post by sailorboyrob on Jul 10, 2011 17:27:20 GMT
Problem with spinning rods is they are no good for anything else whereas an uptider is a dual purpose machine...... Only in the same way that any other rod is dual purpose. You could go uptiding with a savage bushwacker but you would be better off with an uptider! |
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Post by eccles on Jul 10, 2011 17:37:47 GMT
The gents criticising my suggestion obviously have never used a light up tider like mine. It is of course 9' 6" and when I bought it from a very well known local tackle shop around 9 years ago, I specified that I wanted a rod which could be used for both spinning and close in beach work although I did not know as much as I now do. Said rod has been used for both purposes many many times over the years and thus I conclude that the tackle shop got it right.
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it and note that the gent wrote that he did want a "spindly little plastic thing" (neither would I).
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Post by Purple on Jul 10, 2011 19:13:43 GMT
eccles - I aint criticising - i'm disagreeing - and my point is that using an uptider means it won't (as far as I know) flick out lures under an ounce. I have a 9ft 6 uptider here - same as you I treat it as a bit of an all rounder - beach - pier - boat I even reviewed the thing on here - beachandboat.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=reviews&action=display&thread=15895Very versatile bit of kit in my opinion Now then – if you have found an even more versatile bit of kit – I for one would like to know about it, simply because I might want one for myself So – what uptider will chuck a lure less than an ounce with accuracy and distance ? Cos that's all I was saying …...... If I'm wrong I want to know – and if it comes to it – i'll pop over to Hayling one day with what I have and we can swap notes – boards are for sharing this stuff after all …..... |
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Post by drooper on Jul 10, 2011 22:55:27 GMT
ok, years ago spinning wasnt as popular as it it now
the result was carp rods etc were pressed into action as there really wasnt alot else around
these days spinning plugging etc has a new breed of followers who want rods that do the job properly !
tackle companys have realised this and a whole new world has opened up...........
designated rods for all types of lure fishing,readily available at all kinds of prices to suit everyone...........
lure rods have evolved , they are specialist in some case , but user freindly in others ........
most rods can do more than one job , but rarely do them well
a 9 to 10ft spinning rod with some backbone is happy enough light baitfishing as well ........and great fun and can also be used for float fishing , mulleting but not great for uptideing
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