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Post by solaralarms4u on Feb 9, 2013 20:14:29 GMT
Hi all, a bit new to all this Forum stuff, so thought best if I posted here. I have for some time been playing around, modifying, experimenting and developing my own home made “all in one sea fishing bait/scent feeder grip leads in both Uptide and Breakaway”, with very interesting and positive results!!!!!. Anyone out there who has used or is using a swim/bait feeder in sea water or wanted to know all about it is welcome to contact me as more than happy to enlighten you with my idea’s. Will try and post some pics soon, Looking forward to your comments as may make a few more and flog them. Russ
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Post by maniyak on Feb 10, 2013 0:32:19 GMT
Hello,
Yes mate, been using home made feeders off the beach for many years. Some elaborate designs incorporating gemini products and some simple stuff with plumbing gear with mixed results. The idea came about from boat trips where a bag or frozen block of some bait or another got tied to the anchor before release. You could guarantee that which ever side of the boat laid in the tide closest to the scent trail would have the best results. The biggest problem I have found off the beach is compromise with distance. The additional weight and bulk of such devices dramatically reduce distance, but then again as I'm sure others will agree, distance is not the be all and end all of shore fishing results.
In my experience, volume of bait or concentration of scent in a small area for the fish to home in on is key, and this is difficult from the shore without things getting over complicated. What I mean by that is that I'd prefer to put 2-3 crabs on a pennel rig than 1 and a half and then 1 and a half in a tube as a free offering. However, if it were possible to have a piece of plastic attached to a rig body that took some form of bait cartridge (say a piece of sponge soaked in a high concentrate attractant) you might be on a winner???
No I haven't made that magic concentrate yet, and yes I am banned from the kitchen cupboard that has the blenders and stuff in it.
Best of luck with your endeavors mate
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Post by eccles on Feb 10, 2013 8:01:47 GMT
Yes such systems can work and I have done a similar exercise with an old 35mm film can with a few holes drilled and packed full of tuna/mackerel mush. However, one does need to fish it where there is some sort of tidal current flowing so that the scent travels and I do better at night and around the 50 yd mark.
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Post by bleth on Feb 10, 2013 13:25:20 GMT
hi there . yeah we tried something like that in the autumn just gone. we had some worthwhile results. on one occasion 2 of us totally outfishing a charter with 8 fishing ,anchored about 100 yds away (we got there 1st.) what we did was buy some plastic wild bird feeders about 8" long and filled one with halibut boilies & cat food .we attached this to a medium size flower pot filled with cement & a loop to tie 100 yds of 4mm nylon twine this we dropped over the side of the good ship serenity and fished downtide . the good bit was we caught a lot of fish but nothing big .we were using worm baits but a big bit of squid would have been a better,and might have found a cod .by the way we were fishing off seaford head .1 mile out, in about 70 feet. the problems were as follows............... when the tide picked up past 2 knts. even 10 lbs. of concrete was inclined to move about . this got pretty annoying cos our lines managed to catch the rope several times . reloading the feeder gets a bit tedious every 1/2 hour or so 10 lbs does,nt sound much but it is ! it is really only effective for about an hour either side of slack water conclusions>>>>>>>>>>>> useful time with this is limited 50 feet is about max depth you need to chuck the bait a fair way downtide to avoid tangles. this means more lead to keep your bait hard on the bottom the scent trail will attract loads of small fish .better fish need a big durable bait ready when they turn up this is definately worth persevering with regards dave
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Post by solaralarms4u on Feb 10, 2013 16:25:10 GMT
Well loads more comments and feedback than I expected so I will try to reply to all in one post, When I first starting using this method I had several problems, however the results despite the teething problems only showed me that the method actually worked and was well worth pursuing, that's why I now only use the mushy pre made by myself paste and the oil soaked foam filled pod so it acts as an attractant scent discharge rather than a feeding Pod, the other thing I found was if the pod is attached to the trace it will register as a bites if the fish is playing around with the pod and that's why I designed an all in one lead, the pod is not connected to the trace anymore but part of the sinker now, and when my lead grabs as with any other grip lead the pod and lead combined stays put for the duration of your cast with one pod full directly flowing in concentration over my individual hook bait only and not all over the place random. The other thing is the size of the pod is important, to small and yes it could discharge to fast to big and you may as well attach a rubby dubby bag but try casting that! I have found the size pod I use is big enough but not to small and that they do work very well in any flowing tidal water and especially when up-tiding from the boat. I think a photo would explain my design a lot better so when I get back to work on Monday I will take a couple of pics and upload for you all to see. In the mean time thanks for all your comments and keep them coming as most interesting and appreciated.
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Post by solaralarms4u on Feb 11, 2013 15:02:48 GMT
As promised heres a couple of pics to show my own all in one leads, breakaway, fixed grip wire uptide and also the feeder pod on its own that I attach in line on the trace, the pod is 35mm dia and 100mm long, both these are 6oz.
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Post by marryjhonson on Apr 2, 2013 17:46:44 GMT
thanks for sharing such a great tip i really like that keep it up
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