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Post by eccles on Oct 19, 2007 13:17:42 GMT
Have now got some of the Berkley Vanish Transition flouro - tackle shop was doing it for a good price, so will be giving it a spin whilst sole hunting this weekend. Will report my findings as to how it goes vs Amnesia. Slight prob:- I now have 250 yds of the stuff so will probably last me until I kick the bucket. If it looks good and someone else wants 50 yds (14 lb BS) I will sell you some for £2.40 + P&P.
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Post by Cam on Oct 19, 2007 17:06:22 GMT
Beware there are good fluros and lots of absolute rubbish ...im going to include vanish in the later catagory.I have tried many fluros and if i was to recommend one it would be korda iq...i thought ashima was good but seems to of disappeared,and fox casper stiff link and fox illusion which i believe are one and the same but the casper name had copyright infringment problems are also very good .Then there is clearwater the first fluro with stretch .about £12 for 20 metres which is mental but you can buy 3oo metres for £30......i dont like the way a lot of them knot being as i use uni knots .IF THEY PIGTAIL I WONT BUY BUY THEM.also i would like to point out that putting more than five turns in a uni knot with fluro is not good.Ive been using fluro for carp and barbel fishing for over ten years now as i said there is good fluro and stuff destined to be binned
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Post by cuckoo on Oct 19, 2007 18:14:40 GMT
Cam i brought rig marole fluoro , how do you rate them as i havent used it yet !!!
lee.
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Post by eccles on Oct 19, 2007 22:07:29 GMT
Cam why do you say that Vanish is absolute rubbish?, not that it will do me any good now I have bought some. (LOL). When I first got it, I deliberately put a kink in it then tried to straighten it and it seems to work, so fairly happy at present. I intend to use it for making sea rigs and the first test comes this weekend. I am slightly surprised because my local tackle shop is usually pretty careful about what he stocks as he has some pretty discerning customers who spend a lot of money at times. I am not hugely interested in whether it "vanishes" or not as I think that is a load of baloney (IMO fish just do not have the intellect); it's the kink resisting properties which interest me.
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Post by solehunter on Oct 19, 2007 22:49:45 GMT
Cam why do you say that Vanish is absolute rubbish?, not that it will do me any good now I have bought some. (LOL). When I first got it, I deliberately put a kink in it then tried to straighten it and it seems to work, so fairly happy at present. I intend to use it for making sea rigs and the first test comes this weekend. I am slightly surprised because my local tackle shop is usually pretty careful about what he stocks as he has some pretty discerning customers who spend a lot of money at times. I am not hugely interested in whether it "vanishes" or not as I think that is a load of baloney (IMO fish just do not have the intellect); it's the kink resisting properties which interest me. I half agree with everything you say eccs, I`m not that interested if the line kinks as i do new snoods every trip anyway. If they kink while i`m fishing , then tough tit on me. I`ll get over it. Vanishing line? Load of crap, it DOESNT vanish....even fish have better eyes than we have, so dont be suckered.  As for resistance, a serious match angler may bore you to sleep telling you the merits of thin snoods, but i think its crap. How can i catch the most finicky fish on the planet with 30lb snoods with lead beads on them (with great success).? I will stick my neck out and say that 30 / 40lb snoods (beach) are the best ones, as they dont tangle OR kink that easily, nor are they gonna loose you fish. The fish dont think "Ohh there is a thick piece of line....Better not touch that one" They go for the bait, once hooked....end of game. I can see you are not going to do this whilst mullet fishing ,,,,ect. But i`m sure you get my drift. |
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Post by The Codfather of Sole on Oct 19, 2007 23:22:23 GMT
Have to agree with Ada here, I use nothing but Amnesia Clear off the beach for all rigs, and found it straightens well with a good pull. Have used Flurocarbon snoods in the boat for a few years now for spookier fish; an example of this being floatfishing for bass and found it does make a difference. Cam has some good points there, and is looks like he has done the same as most of us that have tried a few brands, in settling with a brand or two that suit him. Lets just say that I lost a few good Bream to Vanish snoods when I first tried that on one particular session... One thing to be very wary of is knot strength and abrasion with FC, it has to be looked after and inspected regularly while being used, certain brands knot better that others, and you may find that you will have to modify the way you tie trace components on as in no. of turns and rate of tightening. I use a uni knot with 2 turns/2 turns but looped through hook or swivel twice (this is a proven tested method giving max % of original line strength) My favourite is Seaguar, pricey  but the very best available  - www.uk-hooks.com/details.php?selected=294 |
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Post by eccles on Oct 20, 2007 7:35:42 GMT
Thanks for that Cod father, very interesting to those of us who have never used FC before. BTW who the heck is "Ada"?
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Post by skatenchips on Oct 20, 2007 13:36:18 GMT
Im still happy with Amnesia clear as Ive found the 40lb is thick enough to withstand knocks and abrasians and some crab crunching,and as I do 90% of my fishing after dark It dont matter a jot about line thickness as the fish cant see it. That sed,I now carry plenty of spare snoods made up to swap should I get an annoying kink in the trace.....so Im in bizzness ASAP. Havent had much experience of it kinking but am always interested to know there are good alternatives out there. Gazza |
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Post by The Codfather of Sole on Oct 20, 2007 16:15:41 GMT
Thanks for that Cod father, very interesting to those of us who have never used FC before. BTW who the heck is "Ada"? What?! You live in Hayling and you don't know who Ada is? 'Gremlin' is Adrian 'Ada' Farley... |
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Post by eccles on Oct 20, 2007 17:17:48 GMT
No mate, don't know the bloke why should I? Plenty of blokes on Hayling do fishing but I don't know many of them. E.g. Met an old bloke t'other day and got chatting he lives here and fishes but first time I have met him even though he's lived here for years. Didn't ask his name, he could have been Farley for all I know.
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Post by Cam on Oct 20, 2007 17:19:31 GMT
Codfather,i to have heard very good things about seagur but havent tried it.The dissapearing in water because it has a very similar light refractive index stuff doesnt convince me either.However there is plenty of underwater footage of rigs lieing on the bottom of lakes which show fluro to be far better than for instance braid which stands out like a sore thumb.Most sea fish dont get caught again and again so there shouldnt be a problem with thickness of line or spooking fish.The same of coarse does not apply to all fishing and i have had to go down to 1lb line to recieve a bite from wary roach.The main reason i use fluro carbon is its stiff qualities but it has to knot well or any gain achieved by having a rig that is more tangle resitant is completly blown by a rig that can part due to knot strenth being poor.i believe that for the majority of shore fishing and most boat fishing the trusty old amnesia is the best bet .The point i was trying to make is that on the occasion when fluro could give you an edge you have to be happy with the brand you are using.Now if say the first fluro i tried was say subtefuge and i had nothing but trouble with it i could say ah this fluro stuff is pants and think them all the same ....This is not the case they are in fact all different.Codfather is very correct in saying you have to be careful to check the stuff for even the slightest scrape.Hope i havent put anybody off giving it a try as either a mainline ,a leader or a hooklenth because it does have applications .
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Post by gremlin on Oct 20, 2007 21:35:22 GMT
"No mate, don't know the bloke why should I?
Met an old bloke t'other day and got chatting he lives here and fishes but first time I have met him even though he's lived here for years."
Yep, I guess that’d be me …. I’m lucky though - I think it was 'Ecky' who introduced me to Neil. Here he is giving him a few pointers and one of those looks!  
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Post by skatenchips on Oct 20, 2007 22:19:11 GMT
Rich is that you wearing bicycle clips mate.....or is the fashion
to wear plus 4,s on Hayling these days mate......lol
And I see you wore ya skull hat incase the casting lessons
got out of hand.
Remember ive seen you cast "up close".............
can I borrow that hat,,,hehe
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Post by cuckoo on Oct 20, 2007 22:39:11 GMT
That fella looks a bit lost for the tour de france lol !!!!
lee.
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Post by eccles on Oct 20, 2007 23:00:18 GMT
Yep that's me, have to wear that gear cycling on Hayling on account of the number of coffin dodgers on Hayling which are liable to mow you down. Mystified by Gremlin's sarcasm though as I don't recall introducing anyone to Neil Mackellow that day as it was the first time I had met him.
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