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Post by gremlin on Nov 16, 2007 9:53:19 GMT
I didn't let on the name of my priceless uptider. No one else has come close yet! Although the logo etc is now missing, it still has the original rings and unique finish in black and gold with unground parts of the blank for contrast and grip around the spigot. Perfect blend of power, castability and unbelieveable tip! I think it was called a Daiwa Carbo Whisker Uptide (CWU). They didn't make many of them and every time I take it out with experienced uptide anglers I invariably get a cash offer!!!! No way .....
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hoggy
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NW England on a Peninsula
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Post by hoggy on Nov 22, 2007 21:44:23 GMT
Sorry for not replying sooner .... the Suverans are good rods, I used the uptider version Sunday gone, my mate had a hand in the initial design of the extended butt section (design/testing) …. They are a rod that stands the test of time well, but they lack feel. The 6-10ozs Suveran uptider only ever gets feel when using the upper scale of weight, further back down the scale and they are far to stiff for the job, to the point when uptiding they can break the weight out. They compress very little when casting and the cast needs to be slow and powerful to get the best out of the rod, if cast to fast they can upset the reel and cause fluffing. The sliding butt section whilst a good idea is not perfect, it needs regular maintenance or it seizes up, it’s not a problem as such more a characteristic.
The Suveran boat rods are really quite the opposite, they have a very nice feel to them and are one of the nicest of rods to use, even with the one legged brace rings, these are nothing but trouble. They look good and function well, but are far too delicate. The whipping on the boat Suverans bleed as do the whipping on the TDX rods, though on the Suveran uptider this has not been a significant problem. My main concern with the Suveran boat rod is that I have had one snap relatively easily whilst fishing the Llyn peninsula.
The TDX has a fine compromise to its build, it’s powerful yet flexible, and it’s reliable …. That said not 100% perfect, though what is after many seasons of hard fishing …. The whipping has bled and the reel seat has slight movement in it’s, easily rectified. No rings have failed even when treated roughly, even it being a boat rods, it casts well, and is easily utilise as an uptider as the need arises. The TDX has a nice semi fast tip action with strong middle section lift, more so that the Abu Suverans opposite number. All in all I’d plump for the TDX over the Suveran opposite number anytime, but that purely my own opinion.
I used an early model Daiwa uptider a couple of years back and it was probably the best uptider I have ever used, but at the moment the name escapes me, it had all the attributes I personally require from an uptider, but, as even then, it was out of production, it was not possible for me to get a hold of one …. If I remember the name I will post it on here …. The thing I clearly remembered was that it was a ‘orrible colour, think it was purple or something like that, anyhow a fine rod indeed.
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Post by Richieawt on Nov 24, 2007 14:19:55 GMT
Sorry for not replying sooner .... the Suverans are good rods, I used the uptider version Sunday gone, my mate had a hand in the initial design of the extended butt section (design/testing) …. They are a rod that stands the test of time well, but they lack feel. The 6-10ozs Suveran uptider only ever gets feel when using the upper scale of weight, further back down the scale and they are far to stiff for the job, to the point when uptiding they can break the weight out. They compress very little when casting and the cast needs to be slow and powerful to get the best out of the rod, if cast to fast they can upset the reel and cause fluffing. The sliding butt section whilst a good idea is not perfect, it needs regular maintenance or it seizes up, it’s not a problem as such more a characteristic. The Suveran boat rods are really quite the opposite, they have a very nice feel to them and are one of the nicest of rods to use, even with the one legged brace rings, these are nothing but trouble. They look good and function well, but are far too delicate. The whipping on the boat Suverans bleed as do the whipping on the TDX rods, though on the Suveran uptider this has not been a significant problem. My main concern with the Suveran boat rod is that I have had one snap relatively easily whilst fishing the Llyn peninsula. The TDX has a fine compromise to its build, it’s powerful yet flexible, and it’s reliable …. That said not 100% perfect, though what is after many seasons of hard fishing …. The whipping has bled and the reel seat has slight movement in it’s, easily rectified. No rings have failed even when treated roughly, even it being a boat rods, it casts well, and is easily utilise as an uptider as the need arises. The TDX has a nice semi fast tip action with strong middle section lift, more so that the Abu Suverans opposite number. All in all I’d plump for the TDX over the Suveran opposite number anytime, but that purely my own opinion. I used an early model Daiwa uptider a couple of years back and it was probably the best uptider I have ever used, but at the moment the name escapes me, it had all the attributes I personally require from an uptider, but, as even then, it was out of production, it was not possible for me to get a hold of one …. If I remember the name I will post it on here …. The thing I clearly remembered was that it was a ‘orrible colour, think it was purple or something like that, anyhow a fine rod indeed. I tried the daiwa and found that over rough ground it was to soft to the point of not being able to pull out of snags and lacking power when it mattered. I agree on the fact it probably wouldnt be the best shallow uptiding rod but its certainly the best for deep water/big fish and they do, do a lighter version. It can also make a good downtider or jigging/jelly worming rod. The diawa range that I found brilliant was the team diawa boat rod range 90's models (i think). The origanal team diawas are of better quality In my opinion, ive been hunting for the 6-10 uptide for a while now but rare as rocking horse sh!t.
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