200yd cast.........who you kidding !!!

[skatenchips]

heheheheh....I hoped the thread title might get your attention.

Ok........so Im not a member of the "200" club and dont
read too often about many of our members casting
regularly 200yds .
Im often been amused by the ........naaaaaaaaa ya dont need
200yds to catch fish at my marks,"your casting over their head"
YET I DONT read the same peeps saying what they DO catch at 200yds
.........might I hazard a guess ..they cant reach it either.....so dont really know whats out there at 200yds.
I may be wrong.....and my apols to those that can...more power to your elbow..!!!!!!!!

Ok..so it makes perfect sense to me that fish move along tidal
gutters and troughs searching out grub within 200yds of the surf line .............but ....Wots out there..!!!!!!!!!

Id love to get some of our Kyakkers to do a "200 yd search"
and fish at some of our more popular marks when certain
species are about just to see if the magic 200 produces more
than the 99% of us that just lob it 100 and make do.

God elp us if the "yakkers " came back saying there are
shed fulls at 200yds+......as we,ll all be training hard to
reach that bloody distance...lol
O .....Funny that the commmercials....already scoop up
fish at that distance A..!!!!!!!!!......wonder why... ;D

Gazza

[squidlips]

hello mate,you will probably find the bouys off eastney are whelk pots and not nets.
2 or 300 yds off eastney the sea bed is fairly flat with an isolated spot that has kelp around it.
one such spot is just past the yellow bouys infront of st georges road
on a calm day i will often venture there and get a few plaice but we have to watch out for flying leads from crack offs on the beach.

[solehunter]

Of course the fish are out there mate, they are at every distance at one time or another but some marks fish better in tight and others at range (i`m sure you know this mate) ;D
Most of my fishing for most species i go for is done at very close range but in saying that there are 2 shallow leadges i fish for bass on that needs (for some reason) a good 100 yard clatter. I normally fish 2 rods and keep one in tight just in case but have never had a take, so now when fishing these marks i just take one rod and beat it out as far as a big bait will let me.

[davey]

Trouble is, there's a lot of difference between hitting 200 on a tournament field and doing it on a beach with bait attached, even with clip down rigs. I'm lucky living on the Island, most beaches you don't need anywhere near that.
I have no idea how far I can cast, and don't really care, as long as my bait reaches the fish, after all thats what really matters.

[solehunter]

davey said:

Trouble is, there's a lot of difference between hitting 200 on a tournament field and doing it on a beach with bait attached, even with clip down rigs. I'm lucky living on the Island, most beaches you don't need anywhere near that.
I have no idea how far I can cast, and don't really care, as long as my bait reaches the fish, after all that's what really matters.

A good way of measuring your casting range is to measure the distance of a feature you know you can reach or clear using google earth. Use the measure option in tools.

[monkeynuts]

i might be completly wrong and miss judging the distance from the beach
but most people( but not all) who hit 200+ yards off the beach with end tackle come with slight smell of bull stuff.
200+ yard is a long way , just think when you next come off a motorway junction- casting from the 1st count down marker sign(3 strikes) to the 3rd (1 strike) that is 200 yards as each sign is 100yards apart.
i think if you are getting over 120-140 yard with tackle you are a bloody good caster.
as for the question i recon every mark is different and you need to find the feture, but for consistant catching of fish of all sizes id say distance dos help.
the best person iv seen cast is fishcakebreadcake( now hes going to have a big head...lol) but what a wollop (got to be close to 200 mark with tackle ), and yes when iv been there he deffernetly catchs more than us 70-100 yard plopers .
but fishing has no rules set in stone and iv seen plenty of kid with 9 ' rods hitting a masive 15-20 yards win a comp with a cracking bass

[phish]

All in all I think being able to emplty a reel when required has to be an advantage, it at least gives you the option of fishing a greater area (If its needed). Howver as I mentioned in another post recently I think you would be able to count people who can cast 200yds with bait on the fingers of one foot.

Years ago when I used to fish off the beach quite a lot a pal of mine got into flying RC model helicopters and devised a system whereby he could tow my weight & bait out 250 yds +. Bite detection was carp but I definately picked up more Plaice than most of the other anglers on the beach

[Pete B]

Agreed with what fish has to say. Also there's alot of guess-timating where casting distance is concerned. I watched anglers claim a cast at 150yds when my thought was that it was barely 80yds?

[greysfanboy]

Haha, this old chestnut
The general consensus is that sticking on bait and terminal gear will knock about a third off your total distance. Considering the world record with a plain lead is something like 305 yards then 200 yards with bait would be phenomenal, and there are probably only a few people in the world who can consistently do it. It obviously isn't a disadvantage to have the capability to do that, it's just fortunate that most marks don't require it
I've got nothing against people who can really put it a long way, the only problem I have is when they get the ego problem and everything they say makes them God, like a certain someone who is no longer a member on here... though the best caster I have seen isn't like that at all (richieAWT)

[phish]

admin said:

Agreed with what fish has to say. Also there's alot of guess-timating where casting distance is concerned. I watched anglers claim a cast at 150yds when my thought was that it was barely 80yds?

So true. The ability to accurately estimate the distance of a cast over water is almost as rare as the people who can actually do what a lot of anglers fondly imagine they are achieving.
However, its not so hard to the read distance cast if you check whats left on the reel. You can soon see what a 150 yard cast looks like by dropping the lead, free-spooling the reel and pacing it out on the beach and seeing how much line is left.

Most of us would be dreadfully disappointed as there would line exposed that had not seen the light of day since the reel was loaded.

[Centurymad]

Best way is to go to a football pitch and stand on the goal line & cast down the Pitch(when no one about), think you will be in for a surprise as they are 100-110 yds in distance, add bait,rigs(resistance) and you can take 25-30% off this. As said b4 distance over water is very hard to guess correctly, most way over-estimate what they are getting....

[The Codfather of Sole]

Good thread... There are a lot of anglers who cast further in their heads

A 100+ fishing cast is a good tool for most trips, but only if you need to use it.

I have seen a 20-30yard advantage over a friends cast clean up on more than one occasion, particularly for rays.

For Islanders - Stinkpot car park to first groyne towards Sandown is 200yards, I couldn't get half that with a 3-hook flapper

Dale

[Richieawt]

After going to a casting tournament last month and hitting 253 yards i can safely say there is no way i could get close to 200 with a baited rig.

Firstly the reels we use are so on edge that its a 50% chance you'll blow it up each cast. You have no brake blocks just customised magnetic brakes that are wound off during the cast.
Fishing reels are generally run on the side of caution so you will loose a good bit of distance straight away.
How often are the elements against you on a beach? i may be able to empty a reel with a cast but after ive wound up the slack the spool is over half full again.

Myself and Daz where going to have a play around down are local casting field with some jelly worms on rigs just as a matter of interest, but i would be surprised if we hit anything over 175 yards only possibly with a 1 hook clipped to a impact lead and the wind behind us

[phish]

richieawt said:

After going to a casting tournament last month and hitting 253 yards i can safely say there is no way i could get close to 200 with a baited rig.

Firstly the reels we use are so on edge that its a 50% chance you'll blow it up each cast. You have no brake blocks just customised magnetic brakes that are wound off during the cast.
Fishing reels are generally run on the side of caution so you will loose a good bit of distance straight away.
How often are the elements against you on a beach? i may be able to empty a reel with a cast but after ive wound up the slack the spool is over half full again.

Myself and Daz where going to have a play around down are local casting field with some jelly worms on rigs just as a matter of interest, but i would be surprised if we hit anything over 175 yards only possibly with a 1 hook clipped to a impact lead and the wind behind us

Good words, be interested to hear the results of your proposed test.

[fishyrob]

As far as I know, there has been only one cast in the UK over 200yards that has been accurately measured including bait, and that was Lee Adams at Steyning casting ground, who managed 220 yards with a whole squid (in a Dvice, naturally..... As a comparison, the best cast I made that day was 140 yards. When you see the boundary marker for 200 yards, you will realise that it is one hell of a big cast, with or without bait!