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Post by fishyrob on Feb 25, 2008 8:35:37 GMT
As far as I know, there has been only one cast in the UK over 200yards that has been accurately measured including bait, and that was Lee Adams at Steyning casting ground, who managed 220 yards with a whole squid (in a DVIce, naturally. As a comparison, the best cast I made that day was 140 yards. When you see the boundary marker for 200 yards, you will realise that it is one hell of a big cast, with or without bait!
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Post by scotty-b- on Feb 25, 2008 10:34:44 GMT
why is there an ego thing about casting over 200 yards my eight year old son can cast 15 to 20 yards and he picks up all kinds of goodies, we were fishing lossie harbour just two months ago and he pick up a 4lb codling and flatties off of the beach. you allways need to take your footing into account, it is all good bragging that you can lob a lead that far but try it on a shingle beach or wet rocks with a drop in front of you then you will only cast the distance you feel safe at. if you want deep water get a boat.
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Post by greysfanboy on Feb 25, 2008 10:44:27 GMT
As I said scotty, it's ok being able to do it as long as you don't get the God Syndrome (like someone who until recently was a member here ) I couldn't believe one post I read on WSF... someone asked a guy why he spent nearly all his time tournament casting and didn't go fishing anymore. The reply was something along the lines of 'what's the point in fishing when there's no fish left in the sea?'. What a plank, because although the stocks are under intense commercial pressure I still read catch reports day in and day out on here which show there are still fish in the sea. Just goes to show that the ability to cast far was probably the only skill this guy had, and he struggled to catch.
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Post by scotty-b- on Feb 25, 2008 11:09:17 GMT
What is the point of it then if you are not willing go and hunt fish that is the nature of our sport, yes it would be nice to have the ability to safely cast that far but why would you. Fish are fickle buggers and the best shore cought conger i ever landed was just off the cliffs where other fish come to feed. yes the stocks are getting low but with the correct knowledge and a little luck you will catch. Just seem that there are alot of people out there with all the gear and no idea
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Post by greysfanboy on Feb 25, 2008 11:27:15 GMT
yes mate I suppose it also depends on how lucky you are with good local beaches etc. On the IOW most of my favourite beaches produce decent fish at all ranges from about 15 foot out, whereas the odd few that would need a longer cast only seem to produce fish like pout.
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Post by colbythecodking on Feb 25, 2008 18:09:08 GMT
wen ur a kid you do like to cast really far out and like to see that spool being empted ;D but if im fishing place like st helans i dont tend to cast as far i normaly do the same old thing have one out as hard as i can hit it and other about 40 yrds-60yrds
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Post by solehunter on Feb 26, 2008 19:44:36 GMT
I like fishing 2 rods for experimental reasons mainly. I have bass marks that my shorter cast NEVER gets a bite and the longer one does, so now i only fish them with one rod. Cuts down on tackle loss and bait nicely! But while flattie fishing the flatties could be at any range really, before or after the main 2 hours of high water so its good to try different distances until they are found. I see power casting as an excellent tool if you can do it (i cant) as if things are quiet, you just never know what is out a bit further. My mate loves his big hitting and/ on VERY low waters, as he says he can hit gulleys and ground that is not ever fished.....makes sense, and he does do well!
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Post by Richieawt on Feb 26, 2008 23:02:18 GMT
Its great to have it in your armoury but the key to success is knowing when it is needed and when its not.
I will confess that at the moment i get a greater buzz from casting than i do with beach fishing (not surprising considering the time of year) It is a separate sport to fishing completly, granted its roots lye with fishing but the way in which set up your equipment is totally different. The attention to detail with reel setup, casting technique, reel position, drop length and even ring spacings has to be perfect. You just wouldnt believe how in depth it gets to achieve those extra few metres. The reels i use will spin for minutes in free spool and wouldnt stand a chance on the beach.
But it just is a different sport and i see no need to gloat about achieving big distances when most of the guys here could with a bit of help and tuition probably get up past the 200 yard barrier, but most people on here are fishermen and are not interested as they catch plenty within their range.
I can safely say a majority of the fish i have caught have been within 75 yards of the beach.
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Post by solehunter on Feb 26, 2008 23:20:11 GMT
Makes sense. I personally only have to look at a multiplier at it ends up looking like a ball of line found on the beach! If a reel gets tuned that good then fair play. I do feel i need to get more that my 100 odd yards in some situations, but i dont like multies because they are just to damn slow on the retrieve. I may have bothered perfecting my multi casting skills (or lack of) if i thought a multi would get me off of a shallow ledge better than a "few winds and i`m on the surface" fixed spool technique. To be honest i`m just an overhead thump caster but i do ok on distance.....with a little tuition i know i could get a lot further. Anyone wanna show me lol?
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Post by daznewland1 on Feb 27, 2008 7:18:52 GMT
you dont need a multi mate last casting comp i whent to the guy won with a fixed spool 293yards, you are more than wellcome to come casting one day with me a and rich if you wont
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Post by eccles on Feb 27, 2008 8:07:15 GMT
you dont need a multi mate last casting comp i whent to the guy won with a fixed spool 293yards, you are more than wellcome to come casting one day with me a and rich if you wont Tend to agree, I can nearly always do 100 yds or more if I want these days with a fully loaded clipped down rig using a fixed spool and boy can I wind in faster than the bloke with the multi. I have nothing against multi's as I own two myself and they do have better cranking power but how often am I going to really need that? - About once every five years if I am lucky will I hook a tope from the beach. How do I cast? - Aerialised OTG and still trying to improve but like the man said 200 yds is never going to happen. Does it matter? Not to me, I was catching every week last season and that's what really matters.
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Post by solehunter on Feb 27, 2008 16:50:09 GMT
you dont need a multi mate last casting comp i whent to the guy won with a fixed spool 293yards, you are more than wellcome to come casting one day with me a and rich if you wont I may well take you up on that when i have the time! Cheers.
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Post by eddy on Mar 4, 2008 23:17:15 GMT
After going to a casting tournament last month and hitting 253 yards i can safely say there is no way i could get close to 200 with a baited rig. Firstly the reels we use are so on edge that its a 50% chance you'll blow it up each cast. You have no brake blocks just customised magnetic brakes that are wound off during the cast. Fishing reels are generally run on the side of caution so you will loose a good bit of distance straight away. How often are the elements against you on a beach? i may be able to empty a reel with a cast but after ive wound up the slack the spool is over half full again. Myself and Daz where going to have a play around down are local casting field with some jelly worms on rigs just as a matter of interest, but i would be surprised if we hit anything over 175 yards only possibly with a 1 hook clipped to a impact lead and the wind behind us this is the most honest and no doubt true account i've ever read,thank you. i often watch the big caster's on chesil,and i reckon their hitting 150 max with a single snood clip down and SMALL bait(i large...ish.. lug and squid strip)i reckon i'm hitting around 60-80 yds on the beach,maybe 120 best in the grass arena,plain 5oz lead,pendulom casting like a flea that's just had a pint of frontline(yup!,i need a lesson or 30 ;D)but my distance estimation comes from another life i once led...shooting,and i reckon this guy speaks volumes as to us mere mortals,besides some of my best fish have come within the magic 40yds range ;D
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