penn surfcast 850 Oct 1, 2007 10:18:43 GMT Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostBack to Top Post by squideyebarnes on Oct 1, 2007 10:18:43 GMT crap less than a year old and gears went breaking 18lb black ice from a snag pants my gravell surfcast is smaller but much stronger and more powerfull reel by far.