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Post by dean macey on Feb 14, 2007 23:46:10 GMT
read our local mercury and yet again anglers rubbish being mentioned with one lady taking note of all the items left behind. :-/i am sure this will be a popular idea ;D as we will never have a licence because the support is not there why i shall never know, why dont we make a beach stretch open to all but run by a club.(i knew you would like this).i know you will all say but beaches are owned by everyone and are ours anyway but i can see a time where this is taken from us if we are not carefull.wildlife is being killed,children are harmed by discarded hooks,pets are injured,mostly down to the moronic few who do not give a stuff.would more pride not be taken in our beaches if they were run properly and looked after.you could have work parties and so on.as mick said months ago canterbury angling association with well over 2000 members will ban anyone from fishing if caught with litter.this always works as you will never see any litter anywhere.it will be hard to enforce but so what if we carry on abusing the beach the right to fish on them will be taken away by some looney tree hugger whos dog gets caught up in some line and gets the hump.2500 official hunting groups were all stopted and they had judges as members and it did them no good at all.we have to learn or we will suffer the consequenses.in a report it has suggested there are 46000 pieces of plastic in every cubic mile of sea someone will cop the blame eventually we need to make sure it is not us.we need some new deterents or we will have no beaches. please tell everyone to take their litter home or they will have no sport left.i tell you who will though,canterbury who have adressed the problem and sorted it.  |
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Post by Metal_Micky on Feb 16, 2007 16:41:01 GMT
The only problem i see hear though, is who's going to police a 3 mile stretch of shingle. No-one has the time to do the job properly, certainly not us workers anyway. Perhaps you should put the idea to the local jobcentre, and instead of the lazy dole Ponce's sitting at home all day, they should be made to clean our beaches, rivers and canals. The numpties who can work would soon find em selves a job then. But until they do, clean beaches for all.  Anyone wishing to vote for me at the next general election, please feel free... |
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Post by topbanana on Feb 16, 2007 16:46:56 GMT
have you read total seafishing this month interesting article about licenses after reading it i think id be in favour £25 for license if its like the US and newzealand and auss
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Post by dean macey on Feb 16, 2007 16:50:33 GMT
i been saying it for months and no one agrees,nothing is free why does everyone think sea fishing should be.
get licensed.sort out local freeloading netspeople,sort out countryside,look to the aussies they got it right,
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Post by darenw on Feb 17, 2007 12:21:24 GMT
Why shouldn't it be free Dean ?
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Post by darenw on Feb 17, 2007 12:28:04 GMT
Technology that commercials have has killed one species off after another IMO. I hope they stop but doubt they will.
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Post by slippery on Feb 17, 2007 15:00:00 GMT
I would never pay a fee to fish cause 99% of it gets swallowed up in admin, they can not police it and they wont, it will be another revenue going no where...........
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Post by topbanana on Feb 17, 2007 15:05:06 GMT
slippery you been to aussie how comes it works there
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Post by dean macey on Feb 17, 2007 16:04:11 GMT
slippery and darrenw,currantly i pay £25per year for a coarse licence.
that is the equilavant to 6 score of decent bait.i know what will give me better value for money.the enviroment agency which is funded by our licence put 100% of fees back into our fishing.if a club water needs re stocking then you get help with fish replacements as our club have.if you fish illegally you do get caught and fined and it does happen.if you are caught moving fish you are fined.contary to stories people do get taken to court.
my biggest problem is that we are doing nothing,we watch as illegal netsman work in front of us,undersized fish taken by morons,litter left,the beach left looking like crap,no one to ring and report it to because we have no one,do we let it go on forever or do we do something.
why should it be free lets get some order into our mess of a sport.look down your beach tonight and tell me you are proud of what you see or is it a mess.i can tell you without looking what the beach at deal will look like a rubbish dump.lets confiscate their tackle and fine these idiots.only your way will never allow this to happen.
we need to beat these anglers(so called) and clean up our sport.
also the enviroment agency do
re stocking
education
bank repairs
policing
advertising of the sport
not bad for the price of 120 worms.
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Post by anthonyk on Feb 17, 2007 17:28:30 GMT
Licenses work in the U.S.A. because the police and Ag Game demand to see them and if you have not got one you are march away also your tackle can be taken, and the money collected goes to the right place. In California you need a license to fish from the beach and a party boat but not off the many piers.
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Post by slippery on Feb 17, 2007 17:49:30 GMT
slippery you been to aussie how comes it works there cause the goverment dont rob revenues blind!! its a country where there isnt a 1000x yrds of red tape wrapped around everything too.... |
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Post by slippery on Feb 17, 2007 17:54:46 GMT
slippery and darrenw,currantly i pay £25per year for a coarse licence. that is the equilavant to 6 score of decent bait.i know what will give me better value for money.the enviroment agency which is funded by our licence put 100% of fees back into our fishing.if a club water needs re stocking then you get help with fish replacements as our club have.if you fish illegally you do get caught and fined and it does happen.if you are caught moving fish you are fined.contary to stories people do get taken to court. my biggest problem is that we are doing nothing,we watch as illegal netsman work in front of us,undersized fish taken by morons,litter left,the beach left looking like crap,no one to ring and report it to because we have no one,do we let it go on forever or do we do something. why should it be free lets get some order into our mess of a sport.look down your beach tonight and tell me you are proud of what you see or is it a mess.i can tell you without looking what the beach at deal will look like a rubbish dump.lets confiscate their tackle and fine these idiots.only your way will never allow this to happen. we need to beat these anglers(so called) and clean up our sport. also the enviroment agency do re stocking education bank repairs policing advertising of the sport not bad for the price of 120 worms. I can see all the good points and yes it all looks good on paper BUT it just will not happen in the right way over here, as proved by the lack of fishery officers available, my mate freshwater fishes and has done with a license for many years and has been only asked once for it!? could be something to do with living on a island but that really is a poor show for £25 a year do you not agree? Just one more point its not just our beaches that are trashed its our streets too and we pay council tax, for what?  The point being, whats going to change apart from your wallet? also is the 100% of your fees put back after admin costs? if not I bet it ain't 20% realisticly...... by the time they wade through the red tape after taking your money it will prob be a decade before any real change any way! if they had a genuine interest in our sport would they not be cutting commercials catches? NO, cause it all comes down to cash the same as a license.......... |
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Post by dean macey on Feb 17, 2007 18:26:06 GMT
3 of me mates work for the agency and they do a great job,i think we need to do something soon i isnt really the money we have no order in our soport at all.i am sure it would work and most coarse anglers i know have no problem paying as they see what they get for there money.i do know 2 people in our town who had there gear confiscated last year for breaking rules and abusing an officer.they also got a criminal record as well.better than nothing
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Post by darenw on Feb 17, 2007 18:38:22 GMT
Lots of good points there Dean but..........I wouldn't like to get this government too involved because they are incompetent in every department which already costs me a small fortune now, to subscribe to anything they come up with is folly. Down the line I could see a constant rise in its cost every year with little in return.
I have been asked for my license once in 6 years and that was at an EA teach-in....something like 80% of fishing license money gets spent on game fish related projects, game fishing- the sort of fishing MP's prefer. I am deeply cynical where this government is concerned.
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Post by darenw on Feb 17, 2007 18:42:04 GMT
I personally will carry on taking my own and sometimes others rubbish home with me and that is all we can do. A real angler does this anyway because he is just as interested in his sorroundings as his catch IMO
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