attempt at cod fishing from the kayak

[davejones]

Hi guys went out to the princessa today to have a go for a codling or anything really didn't catch a thing had one small bite probably a pout and caught an interesting piece of pink rock, it got a bit rough so i gave up after an hour and half and thought I'd have a go for Bass on the lure close in as the water was a lot clearer today. Ended up catching 4xBass 3x2lb and one just under size and 2xwrasee both about 1lb. leave the cod for another day and Bass for dinner tomorrow yummy!!!

[cuckoo]

Great effort T , well done on the bass look forward to the cod reports when they come in ;D

[davejones]

I'm not sure how many cod reports there be bud i cant decide whether to put the kayak away for the winter or go and buy a floatation suit and go for it all winter, cod fishing from a kayak isnt as fun as Bass fishing.

[davejones]

does anyone no any good cod jigs or perks ect? got the big jelly worms but i fancy some of those old school perks, worth ago

[scotty]

you will need a dry suit, flotation suit wont do you any good

[davejones]

No i dont want a dry suit they suck i need a flotation suit there warmer, im not worried about falling in its about keeping warm, havnt fallen in yet and dont plan on it lol and have done a lot of hours in the kayak. so thanks for the advise

[scotty]

Have a read of this mate:

What happens when you go in the water.


Without a dry suit (and proper insulation) then the initial problem is cold water shock. Your heart rate will go up to 180 to 200 beats per minute - possible chance of heart attack or stroke. Your breathing rate will go up to 60 breaths a minute, you will not be able to control your breathing and so there's a good chance you will take water into your lungs. Cold water shock takes about 3 minutes or so.


By the way, you can reduce cold shock symptoms by taking a cold bath or shower everyday - luvverly.


Swim failure will be the next problem. The blood vessels in your arms and legs will constrict to reduce heat loss in water. The effect is that you will not be able to co-ordinate your arms and legs - your body moves to an almost vertical position in the water and forward headway stops - but because you are moving your arms and legs you are loosing body heat at a much greater rate.


Chances of swimming 20m without a drysuit in April waters (about 8 to 10C) are virtually non existant. Swimming 200m is well....


In fact operating a flare, pressing buttons on a VHF becomes extemely difficult - that's if you don't drop it first.


Swimming in the sea in waves - even small ones - is considerbaly more difficult than swimming in a pool.


And we haven't even mentioned about swimming against a tide or wind and waves or rip tides.


There's a great but old video of Duncan Goodhew and Sharon Davies simming in a pool chilled to 10 degrees. After 10 minutes they have lost the ability to swim - and that's without waves or tides.


Hypothermia officially comes in when your body core temperature drops below 35C (normal is 37C).


Without a drysuit or wetsuit then in 10 C water it is estimated you have about 1 hour of consciousness after that another 2 and half hours if you can keep your airway clear of the water.


With a drysuit or wetsuit the biggest heat loss will be through your head - wear a hat, even a wet one helps significantly! Pull up the hood on your jacket. Makes you more visible (assuming it's bright yellow or similar) and helps keeps the heat in.


Very few people die from hypothermia - almost all drown when their head falls forward in their LJs. I won't talk about buoyancy aids.


The drysuit (with insulation) and wetsuit does increase your survival time but the effects of swim failure and hypothermia will take effect eventually.


By staying with the kayak you make a much larger target for Search and Rescue (SAR) to see.


Even if you can only get your body partially out of the water you will significantly increase your survival time.


And if wearing a buoyancy aid only then there's a much better chance of keeping your airway out of the water.


While it's tempting to self help by swimming for it - it has to be your very last option. Call for help using your VHF or flares or both.


Keith (RNLI)

If that dont change your mind about a drysuit then your suicidal, or stupid

Tell your mate Tman to have a read to, he may be a pr*ck but no-one would want him to die

tightlines, scotty.

[davejones]

haha good advise mate thanks, but i did no most of that stuff and would prefure a flotation suit, and dont diss the T lol, happy fishing

[michael1923]

There's no helping some people scotty.

Thats a cracking bit of advice to all those that read this thread.
I'd like to thank you for the info, i didn't know some of those facts, scarry when you think about it.

I'd love to add another bit here but i dont think i'll bother, for the good of the forum.

[davejones]

it is good advise and i thank him for it but i prefure to look on the bright side of life and my personal preference is a flotation suit, each to there own bud and the Rnli wear flotation suits, so any whooooooooo any body know of any good jigs or perks i wanna buy some off Ebay but usally fish for cod with bait so dont no what jigs or perks to use. thanks

[michael1923]

I'm no expert at jigging for cod, but it is well known that large white feathers catch, it maybe worth looking at a white jig.

[davejones]

cool thanks michael i no people don't catch as many on jigs anymore but its a bit of fun isn't it and worth ago,

[squidlips]

Oct 7, 2008 15:41:17 GMT @davejones said:

cool thanks michael i no people don't catch as many on jigs anymore but its a bit of fun isn't it and worth ago,

we use pirks and jigs from the boat through the summer for cod
in 200ft of water,south of the isle of wight
personaly i think the cod come inshore to feed on squid or pout etc
they have big eyes so they may not be fooled by a pirk in shallow water
i am not sure whether they can see the pirk in 200ft as most of the cod i have caught have been foul hooked.
forget a floatation suit on your yak try an immersion suit

here,http://www.uk-fishing-tackle.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=145

i have abused my one for a few years and it is still as good as new,
in winter you can wear this with just your under dungers on underneath

[davejones]

thanks squidlips im going to fish with squid as well but fancy using a pirk for a bit of fun a couple of miles out near the princessa worth ago plus i can drift whilst doing it. and i'll check out the immersion suits thanks.

[squidlips]

watch out for that poxy ferry that cuts inside the princessa bouy