525 Mag

[richyp07]

Got a second hand 525 mag a little while ago, haven't really used it yet. It seems to be running really slow.
With my other multipliers the spool has a little bit of play (1-2mm side to side). If i turn the thing on the side to do the same with the 525 it doesnt do anything. If i put my thumb on the spool when its in freespool and flick it it only does about 2 rotations! I have tryd taking it apart and oilin it all up!
Any ideas any1?

[sailorboyrob]

Did you clean all of the old crap out of the bearings before you oiled them? As you know a 525 should be a very fast reel!
The other thing with 525s is that the magnets tend to fall out of the holder, have a look to see if they have and are touching the spool or if someone has put a blob of glue on them that maybe touching the spool.

[richyp07]

The magnets are all in place and seem fine.The bearings seem to run fine until i put it all back together. I just cant adjust the tightness of the spool with the little knob thats under the clutch adjustment thing. It does nothing.

[curtis]

Try the spindal is it the correct way round ? does the spindal run through the spool ? if so then take the spindal out and turn spindal around then re fit.
Can you not take the reel into your local tackle shop,and for a few quid they will sort it out for you.

[sailorboyrob]

The only thing the little knob under the drag does is centre the spool, they call it "end float" basicly you need to back the little knob off all the way then retighten it until, when the reel is in freespool you have just enough play (side to side) in the spool to notice that its moving. With out having a 525 infront of me I cant quite remember the setup of the assembly beneath the knob, whether there is a spacer in there or not.
I think im right in saying that there are 3 bearings, 2 on the spool and one on the drive end of the spindle, the non drive end runs in a brass bush?
Have you checked the spindle bearing and bush? also its possible, although unlikely that the actual spool is full of crap so isnt running propperly on the spindle.
Other than that all I can think of is that the cage or spindle have been deformed due to over stressing.
I am happy to be corrected on any of my points as I am about 8000 miles from home and havent looked at my 525s for years so cant quite remember how they work!

[richyp07]

Thats the problem. I can unscrew it until it comes off but i still cant get any side to side movement in the spool at all!

[curtis]

The cage,or spool could be shot to hell,best thing i would do,is if you have another penn mag is try swapping spools over,then you will see it could be the spool,or put your spool in the other cage and try it. By doing either you will find out the problem.If you have not got another penn then why not ask your mate's if they could try it for you.then its just a case of contacting Ewen Hill,who will sort the prob,new spool,new cage.

[greysfanboy]

Rich, are you sure the mags are ok? What tends to happen is that one or two fall out and stick to the one next to it, so instead of having four magnets one high, you end up with two magnets two high and they scrub the spool, apologise for the crap diagram, used a laptop without a mouse. The yellow bit is the spool and the black dots represent the magnets in the holder. Same thing happened to me, I had to araldite the two rogue magnets back in but remember they have to go + - + - or - + - + in sequence.

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[richyp07]

Yeh checked the magnets again they are fine adam. I have got the reel running alot faster now. I unscrewed the cap for the side to side spool adjustment all the way off. Under it was a round plastic washer type thing that supports the spindle which goes through the spool. I have taken that out and put the cap back on to cover the hole.
It seems fine??? Don't know if it'll be the same with a sizeable fish on the end of the line tho?
If i can hook 1.

[skatenchips]

Sorry Rich,only just noticed your post mate.

If you get any more grief and want a professionals ears to bend

ring up Ewen on the following number,he was Penns reel Dr for donkies years fella and having helped me out ive no doubt can give you some advice if ya 525 plays up again.

Tel: [phone], Mob: [phone] email: [e-mail]

Ewens Tackle Services
18 Morar Place
Renfrew
Renfrewshire
PA4 9DP


Hes a smashing lad,and will talk you through it if you decide to take your reel apart for service or repair.

Gazza

[yamysr]

hi on all the 525 mags ive had there was a bearing under end float cap not plastic washer i think plastic washer was only fitted to 525gs ?
525 mags useally have 1 bearing in each end plate (1 under end float cap 1 under brass bush mag side ) 2 bearings in the spool and 2 bearings in the drive gears .
sounds like there is no end float movement if end cap bearing is missing ?
i have a spare bearing if you want to try it ?

[greysfanboy]

Also I seem to remember reading that loads got made with a wrong part fitted, or fitted the wrong way round or something. Anyway, loads of these duds actually made it into the hands of anglers so maybe this is one of them?

I think they are toss reels and will never buy penn gear again, Daiwa and Abu all the way.

[skatenchips]

Dont know anything about wrong parts being fitted to 525,s
but am just happy my 3 dont have this alleged problem.

They are great reels for all things surfcasting,and luv em to bits
cant comment on Abu,s or Daiwas as never tried em
and thankfully dont need to...but as with all tackle we all have our fav,s.

[richyp07]

Just found a schematic diagram for it. Turns out you are right chaps my reel is missing an O-ring, ball bearing, metal thrust washer and a rubber thrust washer .

[drooper]

Feb 4, 2010 10:55:59 GMT richyp07 said:

Just found a schematic diagram for it. Turns out you are right chaps my reel is missing an O-ring, ball bearing, metal thrust washer and a rubber thrust washer .

that would probably explain it ..........