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Post by Sunny on Jan 1, 2013 8:53:27 GMT
Happy New Year TOF  Agreed mate  |
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Post by formidable on Jan 16, 2013 15:43:54 GMT
The trouble is that humans can't resist the lure of an argument....and the triggers for such meaningless rows are small, insignificant often ill-conceived and blown out of all rational proportion. Once the bun-fight has begun the keyboard warriors engage in combat that always ends in tears; most often by the self-deletion of accounts and occasionally forcing the Mods to take action. The guys who started the fight and deleted their own accounts go off and set up their own forum, dragging their chums and close mates with them. They then devote their time to poaching members from this forum......especially anyone who posts catch reports ! In some bizarre twist the two Muppets who started the fight then kiss-and-make-up and are to be found within the same breakaway forum.....you couldn't make it up. Me, I'm just a simple angler who liked the idea of a forum of like minded guys that was for anglers and led by anglers. When I was introduced to B&B it was just that and was a terrific alternative to the bull-pit of WSF. A friendly forum with a great reputation. Then the fights began.....one after another. First up was Solehunter threatening to leave unless Petepan was fired from the Mod team. Then Mike1923 and bazza pulled out because they claimed they were sick of the island anglers and also wanted a forum in which everyone contributed to catch reports, not just read them. Bazza has been ceaseless in poaching members from this forum....and WSF until they kicked him out for doing it. Then there was the anti-Drew brigade; an island-on-islander rift, accompanied by more threats to leave unless he was arbitrarily banned. So off they sailed to set up yet another separate forum...... Now I hear that Drew has joined their forum ....how the twists of hate dissolved to love and friendship ! Now, I'm not entirely innocent :hysterical: last year I openly criticised the killing of an endangered species - for the weigh-in at an Island - and outside of this forum I wrote to the sponsors to complain and question their morals. It got out that it was me that had written to the sponsors, who instead of choosing to ban endangered species from the weigh-in, instead withdrew their sponsorship. I don't know why they did.....perhaps because they were really broke or were themselves incensed by the needless killing of an endangered species for a trivial prize. My stand on conservation went down like a lead-balloon with some members and they left. The latest spat on here is evident for all to see...TOF has deleted his account because he organised a charity shore comp that was poorly supported. He openly complained and the inevitable bun-fights began. The results are so so so predictable that I am losing the will to care any longer. There are guys who come on here and put in endless effort to try and make things work, to support the forum for what it should be....just a group of anglers sharing fishing experiences. One thing is for sure, there will be further rifts, needless spats and tantrums on B&B....but if the forum is to continue it really needs everyone to just get back to what it was intended for….post catch reports, find new angling mates and join in sharing the other guys glorious fishing moments….. I wish it were that simple mate Well clives got me to look at a post or two on here and im a mad keen wsf poster under the name makemineadouble,but ive had a surf around on here and im staying,that is unless anyone wants a bunfight already   craig |
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Post by Sunny on Jan 17, 2013 10:57:09 GMT
Well clives got me to look at a post or two on here and im a mad keen wsf poster under the name makemineadouble,but ive had a surf around on here and im staying,that is unless anyone wants a bunfight already craig Craig, You are most welcome... great to have you aboard.....I really hope you enjoy this forum and I'm not going to be alone in looking forward to reading about your fishing adventures Cheers & tight lines Nick |
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Post by leeds4ever on Jan 27, 2013 13:07:10 GMT
At the end of the day ,if you have nowt to report then you dont post . Heres hoping that we all catch loads of fish this year and the site picks up.  |
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Post by bleth on Jan 28, 2013 16:54:05 GMT
i,ve read the comments above and thought i may as well have my tuppence as well.
now ive not been a member too long ,probably about 6 months so i dont know much about these little spats - which is a shame cos it was probably quite funny
what i do think is that mods should be very careful about deleting posts, unless they are libelous or personally insulting .even then some editing could be better.-------people arnt daft they are usually capable of deciding who is being a pratt. i enjoy being controversial myself if it makes people think.
i definately think that catch reports should be for members eyes only.if thats not the case whats the point of joining??
trouble is ,my impression so far is that this is a site full of nothing except a few photos and some back slapping apart from the I of W fraternity.
ive made a few suggestions and thrown up some items for comment response -------zilch
so why wont people talk ?
3 reasons i think first the forum is too accessible to non members
2nd a lot of people want to take but not give
3 a lot of you are satisfied with mediocrity in technique and results . we can all achieve more and better fishing if we TALK
Sunny i think u should keep away from sharp things cos you must feel like slitting your wrist at times, but unless the mods give us a reason to be here this site is going to descend into a mire of mediocrity.
so there you go guys - something else to argue about
(PLEEEEEEEEZE DO )
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Post by loopy78 on Jan 28, 2013 21:39:37 GMT
3 a lot of you are satisfied with mediocrity in technique and results Ouch! A lot of us, (myself included) fish for fun and enjoyment, I don't pretend to be one of the hardcore, big casting highly professional danglers - i don't have the time/drive or inclination to change my approach to something that's tried, tested and gives me pleasure. Results may often be "mediocre" but it's still fun, and gives people something to read and take on board - nothing wrong with that, mediocre or not! |
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Post by iknowagoodplaice on Jan 28, 2013 22:31:09 GMT
It begs the question of what constitutes a site that isn't mediocre. Doesn't make sense to describe a fishing forum as such. Nor does it make any sense to tell anyone they are satisfied with mediocre results and techniques. Most people go fishing for enjoyment, not competition. In any case, the seas are in such a state, poor results are now commonplace.
As for how this site is moderated, I have no strong view, although I prefer how things are done here to a certain other site we all know about where the moderators are in need of moderation.
Let contributors here post their pictures, slap backs or say next to nothing. If it's not interesting enough, any of us can stop looking.
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Post by Sunny on Jan 29, 2013 3:25:30 GMT
The flavour of moderation on this forum has been to keep the forum atmosphere friendly and not have controversial conflict. I hope I am right in saying that a smaller forum that is more welcoming is preferable over one that is huge and characterised by people who are unnecessarily aggressive, egotistical, insulting and dare I say Commercial Fishermen. Such forums crush the ordinary angler from raising a single voice of concern for their pastime, for conservation or for fisheries managment. So I don't know of a forum where controversial stuff is openly discussed and in a meaningful way without conflict. If such a body existed they could easily replace the Angling Trust tomorrow and solve all our problems. Anglers cannot seem to agree on anything remotely controversial and squander their numbers on meaningless in-house squabbles....ooops there you go a bit of angling politics creaping in I know I would prefer to read a few catch reports and if another fella appreciates the effort that has taken and congratulates the author then I am fine with that A forum where controversy and heated debate exist without it resulting in threats of violence and obscene abuse, one which also shares its venues, hard earned tactics at those venues and its members are all national standard (not mediocre) anglers...... can someone give me the name of this forum  Mods are the people who volunteer their time to keep the positive character of the forum going on a straight line, within the forum rules. There is no right of free speach on this forum, regardless of what the writer wishes to say; anarchy !!!! If the froum rules are not met the post or thread is closed, simples ! Nor can the Mods 'magic up' interest and give guys a reason to log-on.....most come to read the Catch Reports and that is down to you, me and the rest of us to do. But you should agree that if you spend half an hour or more uploading photos and writing an account and no one even replies to acknowledge the effort then there is an inclination to think - why bother ! Mods...what they do ? I'm not singling you our Bleth, but if you had been a member here four years ago and posted as you have done you would have been savaged by the admin staff and likely been banned after any retaliation, even justified retaliation. I think things have improved and we now have a more just and fair-handed approach. I think I once said that if guys wanted fights they should sign-in to WSF, if they wanted to talk endless drivel they should go on Facebook and if they wanted to log-on to an angling site they should come here. B&B is doing just fine as it is  And I am far too positive a person to ever need a sharp object; that would end my fishing....so no way dude  Bleth, if you are not already, sign up for several forums; get out of each one the bits you need and hopefully this one will be the place where you feel welcome. B&B is just fine. If numbers grow they grow; if they do not then so be it |
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Post by snoopy54 on Jan 29, 2013 7:37:14 GMT
Well you "Talk the talk" quoting from one of my favorite films - look forward to seeing you "Walk the walk" in your first catch report
A lot of us enjoy looking at Fish "Porn" so don't knock it and a lot of us know each other and indulge in good friendly banter on this site
As for mediocrity in technique - as my learned nephew said - ouch! A lot of us only get out once or twice a Month due to commitments,Weather or whatever and purely fish for fun and if we do happen to catch something then we post it up with a pic because it gives people something to read - we aren't top competitive Match Anglers capable of blasting a Bait 150 - 180 met res,but we do look forward to hearing from anyone who is and wants to share his/her adventures
As Sunny(Nick)said Blogs only get taken off this site if they are personally libelous?insulting or contain profanity
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Post by coolwill99 on Jan 29, 2013 12:38:49 GMT
i think personaly its about time this blog was either locked or deleted as it seems to be going on and on and ppl are starting to have a pop again so imo if its gone ppl wont carry on going over old ground
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Post by Sunny on Jan 29, 2013 15:26:01 GMT
i think personaly its about time this blog was either locked or deleted as it seems to be going on and on and ppl are starting to have a pop again so imo if its gone ppl wont carry on going over old ground Happy to kill it if that's what everyone wants ? Do we vote  |
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Post by snoopy54 on Jan 29, 2013 17:28:27 GMT
No
Let it run Nick - its created more interest than any other blog in ages and seems to have sparked up a little interest and bought a couple of people back into the fold
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Post by walker on Jan 29, 2013 21:59:37 GMT
For what its worth I think we should kill it. I don't understand the need to be controversial just to raise a debate.
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Post by loopy78 on Jan 29, 2013 22:06:55 GMT
I'm with Walker and Coolwill here Nick, i think it's run it's course and we're just going over old ground  |
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Post by iknowagoodplaice on Jan 29, 2013 22:51:20 GMT
I don't think there is any need to put a stop to it - the question of what to allow is part of the discussion is it not? Comparisons with other sites and their under or over-moderation is of interest to some.
When no one is any longer interested, the comments will cease.
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