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Post by eddiec on Apr 17, 2009 17:06:50 GMT
Just been into the local tackle shop to get some mainline to reline my reels. Was going to bet some night crystal but they were out of stock, so! I was shown some new line the shop recently got in and thought i would give it ago. Its called ION POWER Reflector Line By Craig Neil, instant camouflage system MM 0,323 KGS 15,900 LBS 35,1 Seems good strength for diameter, probably wont need shock leader  Not tried it yet so was wondering if anyone else has yet  Spoke to one fella who said it seemed good so hope it is and its not a bad price at £8.99 |
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Post by basskingfifteen on Apr 17, 2009 20:36:38 GMT
sounds good that diameter to strength,
post a report m8 and let us know how u get on with it ;D
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Post by lighty on Apr 18, 2009 0:00:29 GMT
you will need a shock leader, but please let us know how you get on with it.
lighty
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Post by eddiec on Apr 18, 2009 8:42:50 GMT
Had a search on google and it seems like the freshwater boys like it landing catfish to over 1oolbs and carp over 5olbs in france. They also liked that once the line is in water it turns green to suit its surroundings as its Burgundy/red on the reel. Also found this from a angler that has done a test! Performed the following tests yesterday with the 0.32mm stated Awa Shima line that I received this morning. Stated Diameter - 0.323mm Actual Diameter - 0.29mm (using calibrated digital micrometer, performed at random spots along a 20m length) Stated Breaking Strain - 35lb 11oz (15.9kg) Actual Breaking Strain (3 tests with 1m long sections taken from the 20m length) - Figure of 8 loop - 15lb 1oz Actual Breaking Strain (3 tests with 1m long sections taken from the 20m length) - 5 Turn Grinner - 17lb 13oz My theory that the labelling plant has been given the breaking strain in pounds then labelled it as kilos, then incorrectly converted the kilos to pounds on the spool labels. I even carried out linear tests without knots by wrapping the line around a wooden broom handle, getting the Mrs to hold it, and doing the same around the hook on a set of calbrated digital scales. Broke at 15lb 1oz again. Looks like the line is stronger with a 5 turn grinner than it is without any knots!!!! Strange but tests cannot lie especially after doing it multiple times and going through almost 50 metres of the line!!!) I had a chat to Carl at Merthyr Angling Centre yesterday and he was happy to hear my findings. Basically the conclusion was that you should look at the breaking strain in Kilos, change it to pounds & that is the knot strength that you should get from it. I have orderd another spool of it as well to do the same tests on again and to see if they are any different. Still 15lb knot strength from a measured 0.29mm line is very good with 8% stretch. Lots more to read about on here! www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=144389&ReadAll=1I think i will try it for myself after what these carp boys :arg: are saying |
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Post by maxwell on Apr 18, 2009 9:03:29 GMT
I've tried a couple of the low diameter / high breaking strain lines. thing i found with them both is they cant take any scuffing on rough ground. never tried the one you refer to Ed. would be interested to see how you get on.
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Post by eddiec on Apr 18, 2009 9:12:42 GMT
Thats what concerns me to Maxwell, a bit of abrasion on the line and cracking off :peace:
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Post by stevieboy on Apr 18, 2009 17:01:26 GMT
I had exactly that problem with Teklon Gold. Great if you're pulling a large weight over clean ground, but had very poor abrasion resistance. £10 a pop too...
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Post by greysfanboy on Apr 18, 2009 17:28:05 GMT
I rate lines on their abrasion resistance and diameter as opposed to breaking strain, but if I fished clean beaches all the time I would probably concentrate more on lower diameter to increase casting distance.
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Post by lighty on Apr 18, 2009 21:14:09 GMT
Don't think that you can tell a lines breaking strength by its not strength mate, but as you've said it does seem to have good knot strength, so maybe worth giving it a trial.
I have tried two or three of these super lines and they have failed so fingers crossed eh!
lighty
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Post by eddiec on Apr 20, 2009 22:57:24 GMT
Tried the new line out tonight, not fishing just a few casts  So far so good, in my view it casted well and shows up bright green when headtorch is being shone on it  Just got to test the strength out with a nice Bass |
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Post by basskingfifteen on Apr 20, 2009 23:16:04 GMT
Be intresting to see how it fishes as a lot of the low diameter lines end up being a bit naff when actually shown the beach and just dont stand up to any abrasion etc,
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Post by greysfanboy on Apr 21, 2009 7:06:06 GMT
Be intresting to see how it fishes as a lot of the low diameter lines end up being a bit naff when actually shown the beach and just dont stand up to any abrasion etc, That's right mate. A lot of the 'high tech' ones are actually just normal line that is stretched past it's plastic deformation point, so it just becomes brittle and crap. |
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Post by geejayy on Apr 21, 2009 9:19:27 GMT
Be intresting to see how it fishes as a lot of the low diameter lines end up being a bit naff when actually shown the beach and just dont stand up to any abrasion etc, That's right mate. A lot of the 'high tech' ones are actually just normal line that is stretched past it's plastic deformation point, so it just becomes brittle and crap. agree with that, orvis fly leader material had same prob years ago, as i recall. |
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Post by eddiec on May 28, 2009 18:24:56 GMT
Been using the line for a while now! AND I will be taking the line off my reels :arg: Had a few crack offs which are uncommon for me in which the line parted very easily :bash: Also trying to bring in the Ton of weed that is about at the mo. I lost 3 lots of rigs and shock leader last time out due to the shock leader cutting through the mainline even when i put a double loop on the mainline knot :bash: Going back to Daiwa Tournament |
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Post by lighty on May 28, 2009 20:02:23 GMT
That ones off my christmas list then!
try Sensor m8 as it seems to knot better to Copolmer leaders than Tournament?
lighty
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