"Learning to cast"

[skatenchips]

Found this site with 3 types of cast.......on vid
Sorry about the shitty quality...!!!!!!!!!
For the benefit of those of us who are "New" to sea angling/beach casting.

The first one called the "Unitech" has improved/increased
my casting abilities....ok ..so only 20 yards ...but its a start.
On clean ground try the first part.....ie....where you lay the lead
just behind your back foot.
and for rugged ground try the swinging lead part....which is
closer to a standard "Lob".

the other casts are OTG and pendulum for the more advanced anglers out there.
Good luck
Gaz

breakawayusa.com/howto.htm

[skatenchips]

Again for the benefit of "Freshies" out there
be aware of the dangers of converting our casts
into ...the sea angling side....ie....bigger "Lethal" leads.

this link is good advise......

www.foxint.com/articles.php?lang=&article=46

Gaz

[bagstar]

Just watching the Pendulum one, had to laugh when he says about problems we are going to come accross and he hasn't noticed that you need a fishing rod!

[eccles]

I definitely rate the OTG cast Skaty. It is not that difficult and since learning it a month ago I am getting better at it, can do up to 150 yds with my 13ft rod; not bad for a skinny 63 year old. I find that it helps to do a little bit of practice in the back garden with an empty rod before I go down the beach. I don't think I will bother with pendulum because I can get out to where the plaice are without it so don't need to bother. Did you get to see Neil Mackellow like you said?

[skatenchips]

Typical innit,I can only do weekends cos of my mate working
M/F and Neil can only do week days.....no matter
its given me more time to practice so I have some idea
of a OTG b4 the fella gets hold of me by the scruff of the neck.
As you said already you found your time with him well worth while........so shall I/we in good time.
Ive been practising at a lake nr me using a 5ft long piece of
guttering it seems to assist the take off speed of the lead
but having marked my line with a black marker...I still aint seen the magical 100yds yet.....but ima workin on it.

Gaz

[eccles]

Skaty, Where are you? If you want, I reckon I could get you over 100 yds. As I said b4 the secret is not to do the final "power" flick until the rod is about 2/3 rds of the way round. It took me a while to realise this and adjust my action accordingly. When you first start to come round from that "3 o'clock" position, you are just building up the speed of the sinker and letting it swing out, you do not at that stage put any shove into it. Only in the last microsecond when you are looking up to the sky do you finally flick the rod at high speed.

[skatenchips]

Eccles your very kind to offer help......and yes I do need it..!!!
But living nr Heathrow I just cant "Pop" down mate,although
as and when I want to fish Hayling ill endevour to link up
with you mate and take on board your advise.

As for the casting,I have tried to do the "Advanced" OTG
but I cant start from way round at 3 O clock behind me
as when I come round and over to release the lead
it always goes out to a 2 O clock direction.
Obviously I have a prob with the timing hence I just lay the lead
directly behind me in the guttering and bring it up and over
in a much more "Back Friendly" easy cast.
It is just the forward momentum ive got to "suss".

But thanks kindly for the offer mate,

Gaz

[eccles]

Know what you mean mate, did it meself a couple of times when I was learning, luckily enough, no-one was in the way. You have probably already realised that you are releasing the line too soon . Adrian Farley (casting coach, etc.) who also lives on Hayling reckons this is because you are looking in the wrong direction - if you are looking up at 45 degrees and straight in front when you release, you will achieve maximum distance and accuracy. Apparently it is a common fault with learners who have yet to realise that the sinker will pretty well go where you are looking when you do the final flick. I am still learning and practicing meself but I always exceed 100 yds now whereas a couple of months ago I rarely did better than 70 yds.

[skatenchips]

Now I have a 7HT winging its way to me.....my next consideration is.......rods to fit the aforementioned casts.
I dunno if to just get a Penn Powerstix 15 ft at £96 and do nice and easy Lob/OTG casts .......or......get meself a £100 13ft rod
and learn all the more technical casts that might get me further out...!!!!
O the joys of learning a new sport......lol

And yes Eccles i hear ya mate.....the head direction
is summit i deff have to concentrate more on..!!!!
..........as one vid sez.......hold rod next to head
in javelin position angle.......align head at same degree....when casting......etc.......blah blah

Gaz

[slippery]

go for the £100+ 13ft rod you want to progress cause you will end up getting it any way as you get better might as well learn on a tool that will improve with you and not bend like a rubber band!!

[skatenchips]

meant to say.........while rummaging around a tackle shop today
i mentioned wanting to learn the OTG cast.
The Owner mentioned a little tip he used in carp angling
that some sea anglers use as well.......
On sandy beaches bury your lead in the sand,so that when you cast the lead being buried creates more instant compression
on the rod tip.
Or when your on a shingle or rough ground beach,take along
a small bucket of sand to do same process.
I chuckled...........but he said it wos legit.
ever heard of it...??

Gaz

[slippery]

skatenchips said:

meant to say.........while rummaging around a tackle shop today
i mentioned wanting to learn the OTG cast.
The Owner mentioned a little tip he used in carp angling
that some sea anglers use as well.......
On sandy beaches bury your lead in the sand,so that when you cast the lead being buried creates more instant compression
on the rod tip.
Or when your on a shingle or rough ground beach,take along
a small bucket of sand to do same process.
I chuckled...........but he said it wos legit.
ever heard of it...??

Gaz

not heard of that!
The thing with instantly loading your rod is it can blow soft baits to pieces and also rods as i found out more than once, a progressive load with a final power input will generate that extra...

[skatenchips]

puts a whole new slant on..........taking your bucket and spade to the beach .......lolol
take it from me slipp.....he was serious mate
but not bein one of the bivvy brigade.....i just dunno
but i see wot ya mean ye the instant loading....
having said that....ive read also that most rods "dont get "
enough compression from the off....makes ya wonder..!!
no bucket for me though.....lol

Gaz

[slippery]

skatenchips said:

puts a whole new slant on..........taking your bucket and spade to the beach .......lolol
take it from me slipp.....he was serious mate
but not bein one of the bivvy brigade.....i just dunno
but i see wot ya mean ye the instant loading....
having said that....ive read also that most rods "dont get "
enough compression from the off....makes ya wonder..!!
no bucket for me though.....lol

Gaz

That why you should suss the off the ground as quick as ya can then do exactly the same, as in setting the weight to the same position before you cast, in the air with body rotation and rod movement its real easy once and not before the otg is sussed. It can put a big bait a long way with little effort, cause the rod is loaded progressively alot of anglers use this self taught fishing semi pendulum style.
If I try to teach anyone to cast this is what i show them as it keeps BIG baits in one nicely presented state at a very reasonable distance with practice plus soft baits like crab/worm can survive.....

[eccles]

Got to go with that Slippery, yesterday I was chucking out lugworm tipped with squid around 120 yds (plaice hunting) and the worms stayed on. Unfortunately no plaice turned up to inspect my offering (LOL)